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re: BULK support thread for those of us bulking

Posted on 7/11/17 at 10:50 am to
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 10:50 am to
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Dude read the program, it's a shite ton of volume. And he is only required to eat the eggs and ground beef. From there he will have to track waist size and adjust and adjust carb intake on rest days.
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 11:04 am to
We will see how it goes

If nothing else I am already enjoying this program because it's different and it's a challenge. I've been doing lean gains since early 2016 so it was time to switch it up.

Also the last time I was sore in every muscle in my body like I am right now was when I was playing football in college and finished the 1st week of offseason. These workouts are challenging but that's what part of being a man is

Lifted this morning. Bench wasn't too bad but deadlift was. I didn't think dead lift would be bad because the weight I did for my 3x5 sets was lower than weight I had done in the past. The difference this time though was that I was doing these dead lifts with sore legs off the heels of heavy squats on Sunday and the prowler yesterday. Did 5x15 DB does and 100 curls(40 straight bar, 30 dumbbell, 30 curled bar)
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 9:23 am to
Little over 1 week in.



Body fat now at 15%. Using my scale to measure. I know it's not the most accurate eat but if nothing else I can measure trends.

Waist is staying consistent between 31 and 31.25 inches so far. I guess fat is being added elsewhere

Yesterday was Day 1 of Week 2. Chins were better this time. Started off doing sets of 5 up to 60 reps. Then did sets of 4 from there on out. No 1 rep sets like last week. Did 110 dips instead of 100.

20 rep squat last Thursday wasn't as bad as I was expecting but it was only 45% of training max. Week 6 it's 70% and that is where it will suck.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 3:05 pm to
Are you doing morning walks? If not that will help a ton with keep bf at bay. Also will help with making you hungry.
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 3:49 pm to
No but I am working about 30 hours a week at the restaurant where I am constantly walking

Did prowler earlier. A lot better than last week. Didn't give out and took less time between pushes. Did my 10 40 yard prowler in 13 minutes 39 seconds which is 4 minutes better than last week
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 6:51 pm to
Good on the prowler work.

As far as body fat goes, worry about that waist measurement. You aren't gonna stack much bodyfat in other areas.

Things you can do if you do start gaining too much in the waist is

Doing fasted morning walks

Cut calories on off days down to only the required beef and eggs. Could even switch the beef to 96% lean if need be.

Add 1 max set of burpees in 5 min after each workout

These things can all be done without really effecting recovery.

Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:01 pm to
The thing that worries me at this point is insomnia

Seems like I am getting it bad on my workout days.

Last week I worked out on Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday and tried to go to bed around 10pm(set alarm for 7:15am) and get 9 hours of sleep but all 3 nights I didn't fall asleep until about 5am. Lied there for 7 hours.

This past Sunday I fell asleep around 1am which is an improvement but I still am not getting the sleep I need.

I sleep like a baby on non workout days though. Fall asleep immediately. I am guessing I am getting some kind of cortisol spike, or maybe some blood sugar issue with eating more carbs on workout days. It's weird because on Sunday I went to bed at 9:30pm and my heart rate was 62 before I lied down. Then 3 hours later after doing nothing but lie there for 3 hours my heart rate was 105 and pounding. Not sure whats going on. Another constant in my insomnia nights is how thirsty I get. I'll drink several 1 liter bottles of water and still feel like I am in the middle of the Sahara in terms of thirst.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:07 pm to
Try some leatonin or other non addictive sleep aid just one those nights. Your body is prolly freaking out from the shear volume.
Posted by baseballmind1212
Missouri City
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:05 pm to
Dealt with the same thirst issues when u bulked (jumped from 140-165 over a summer. From my novice studies it is due to how your body acts during protein synthesis.

For me, after a high protein meal (8 eggs in my case) within 30 minutes I had the sweats and a high HR. Sauna/sprints helped me out. When I started suffering from insomnia, I'd do some touch sprints.

For me it was run a 110 ladder (given your foot ball knowledge your probably familiar). After I'd roast in a hot bath or sauna.

The bath/sauna lowers your HR by forcing blood to extremities when you get out. Made me drowsy as shite.
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 6:24 am to
I didn't sleep at all Tuesday Night... tried going to bed at 10, laid there for 8 hours and didn't fall asleep. Said frick this and got up and went to the gym to do the 2 mile weighted vest walk which simply sucks arse even with a full night's sleep.

Got home from work yesterday and fell asleep at about 5:45 and woke up at 4:45 this morning to go to the gym. Going to start doing my workouts early in the AM to try and stave off the insomnia.

Did my 2nd 20 rep squat this morning, 25 pounds more than last week. 2 weeks in the book now.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:30 am to
How much weight are you up so far?
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 7:51 am to
Week 2 update



Seems like I have stalled a bit on weight gain and LBM gain. Waist size still consistent at 31 inches. This past Wednesday and Friday I did not eat my full 4775 calories that I had been eating the whole time. While I still met my eggs & beef requirements those 2 days on Wednesday I was so tired from not sleeping the night before I went to bed only having ate about 4000 calories that day. Friday I simply ran out of food and didnt have time to go to the store until Saturday

I think I figured out my insomnia issues though. Yesterday I ate all my carbs for the day before my workout and slept a full 8 hours for the first time on a workout day since starting the program.

I was dreading the first day of Week 3 yesterday because I read week 3 is the hardest week, but I didn't think it was too bad. Probably because at least I am getting stronger and though the weights were the highest they have been, my strength gains helped make up for it. 100 chins I did 20 sets of 5 which is my best performance so far, compared to having to do 1 rep sets Week 1 and sets of 3 toward the end last week. I also pounded out my dips in sets of 10, compared to having to end with sets of 7 last week and sets of 5 week 1.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:12 am to
Stalls will happen as with weight loss, weight gain is not linear. Just keep pounding back the food and keep getting stronger and you will be good. Great progress so far. Glad to see your waist staying the same.
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 4:17 pm to
10 40 yard prowlers today in 12:49 which is 50 seconds better than last week plus had 2.5 more pounds on today

Took 60 seconds rest on all but 1 rep where I took a 90 second rest after 6 reps. Last week was 60 seconds first 5 and 75 seconds last 5. Didn't have as good leg drive this week compared to last toward the end but I chalk it up to going heavier on squat yesterday and shorter rest periods
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 7/30/17 at 10:47 pm to
Bug, has is the weight gain coming?
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 5:37 pm to
What's up lsu777 thanks for checking in.

It's been an eventful past week. I haven't posted on TD since last Tuesday. Anyway last Tuesday I had really bad insomnia only this time I was sweating really bad when trying to sleep despite having my AC on full blast and my heart rate was super high. So the next day I went to a clinic to get checked on. They drew my blood and I passed out after that and wound up in a hospital with an IV in my arm. I passed out because I had high blood sugar and taking that blood out of my system dropped my blood sugar to lower levels than my body was acustomed to. Doctors told me my fasting blood sugar was high.

I don't know if I have diabetes but the doctors think there is a chance. I don't have a primary care doc though having just moved to Kentucky and the out of pocket cost to test for diabetes is just too much. One theory the doctors had is that I don't have diabetes but the days I have been eating high protein + high carbs, the excess protein simply was converted to glucose and that is what caused me to have high blood sugar and keeping me up at night. This probably explains why my insomnia only happened on workout days.

Anyway the doctors told me to take it easy diet wise and take some time off from the gym. So for the past week I haven't gone to the gym at all and have eaten a low protein diet(mainly salads, eggs, cereal, sandwiches) and honestly I haven't slept this well in years. I go to bed as soon as I fall asleep and stay asleep. It's only been a week but I feel fine

Not really sure what to do. It sucks to see all the progress I have made being wiped away by the second(I am down 7 pounds from a week ago on the scale), but at the same time I don't want to rush back to the gym until I know I am good to go and healthy. Also when I do return the gym I have no idea what to do diet wise. Weight lifting is part of who I am and it sucks to see it being taken away from me right now. Kind of at a crossroads here. I am afraid to go back to the gym but at the same time wanting to go back now in order to stop the losses.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 7:44 pm to
I'm going to bulk I guess starting this vacation. Lol

Can't wait to see the strength gains.
This post was edited on 7/31/17 at 7:44 pm
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 8:20 pm to
Can you do maintenance workouts? It doesn't seem like it really takes that much energy to do maintenance workouts.

I always think a safe, easy diet is to eat stuff that rots quickly, like veggies and meats. I'm suspect of that food that lasts a long time like grains

You may just have to be the turtle and go slow n steady for your gains. Patience is a virtue platitude.

quote:

Weight lifting is part of who I am and it sucks to see it being taken away from me right now.


Life would not be worth living if there were not difficulties to overcome. Your character is always made through your hard times. You may have time now to improve yourself in a new way.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31042 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 8:58 pm to
Health is way more important that some gainz man. Can always get them back. All this means is you are going to have to do very slow and controlled bulks and only have carbs right around work outs. Can still have lots of protein, just not the carbs. Combined is what caused the problem, prolly shocked the shite out of your system.

Just take it easy lifting for about 3-4 weeks and work your way back into it. You can still do the program but I would try almost going the Keto route. Atleast for a while. Keto gains has a good calculator for this and the required foods for the monolith program fit in that category.

i wouldn't get the diabetic test done if you can't afford it. Maybe you could afford a blood sugar monitor from Walgreens. Would allow you test your resting and figure out which foods are making your blood sugar go crazy so you can control it.

It does suck cause you were making such good progress but health is way more important than anything else as in the end, that's why we do this.
Posted by lsu5803tiger
Democratic Republic of the Congo
Member since Feb 2006
1626 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 9:28 pm to
I was going to post this earlier in the thread but the main thing while adding mass is keeping your insulin sensitivity high and holding inflammation at bay. Even enhanced guys struggle with this. There's a reason why your best gains come whenever you're lean...the leaner the better. Next time try to make small increments in calories once you stall, I would consider a stall, two weeks time frame. Place a good portion of your carbs around your work out. Stay on top of cardio, especially if your daily activity doesn't add up to much. Take fish oil and tumeric for anti-inflammation properties. That's all I got. Heil Gains.
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