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What's in jar Roux that makes it taste different?

Posted on 11/27/16 at 2:58 pm
Posted by Honky Lips
Member since Dec 2015
2828 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 2:58 pm
If Roux is all made the same (oil and flour), shouldn't Roux in a jar taste exactly like home made? Obviously it doesn't. So what's in jar Roux that gives it that "off" taste?
Posted by Uncle JackD
Member since Nov 2007
58640 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 3:01 pm to
If Kary's roux is wrong, I don't wanna be right.
Posted by little billy
Orange County, CA
Member since May 2015
8317 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 3:03 pm to
I have a jar of Savoies and the only listed ingredients are flour and oil. Love is not listed so that must be it.
Posted by Kim Jong Ir
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
52597 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 3:12 pm to
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If Kary's roux is wrong, I don't wanna be right.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 3:26 pm to
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I have a jar of Savoies and the only listed ingredients are flour and oil. Love is not listed so that must be it.


It also has the preservatives TBHQ, (tertiary butylhydroquinone) and citric acid.
Posted by little billy
Orange County, CA
Member since May 2015
8317 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 3:31 pm to
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It also has the preservatives TBHQ, (tertiary butylhydroquinone) and citric acid.


True. I always make my own roux. My dad and step mom were here for Thanksgiving and brought a jar of Savoies. Fwiw I could not taste a difference.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
47381 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 3:35 pm to
I think it's the variety of oils used. I generally use peanut oil for poultry gumbo.

Savoie's, for example, has the following ingredients.

quote:

Enriched flour, vegetable oil, [cottonseed, corn or rice oil (antioxidant [TBHQ & citric acid]0], hydrogenated palm oil. Contains Wheat ingredients.


Kary's ingredients are below.

quote:

Flour, Wheat Flour, Malted Barley Flour (Niacin, Reduced Iron, Thiamine, Monoitrate, Riboflavin, And Folic Acid), And Soy Bean Oil. Allergerin: Contains Wheat.
Posted by Red Drum
Coast
Member since Sep 2007
1793 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 3:38 pm to
should I be embarrassed for using tony's roux mix, or is now considered acceptable? I always tell people i make my own
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 4:16 pm to
The powdered Tony's roux mix in the yellow shaker can isn't really equivalent to roux-in-a-jar. The powdered stuff is sort of a mix of instant-blend (aka Wondra) flour & coloring, whereas the roux-in-a-jar is browned flour & fat. Tony's powdered stuff is a handy item for quick thickening simple items (a little pan sauce from roasting chicken, or a quick crawfish etouffee). I don't use it in quantity, though.

Used a jar of dark Kary's a couple weeks ago & didn't much care for the taste. A distinctively burned/scorched flavor was quite prominent in the early stages of cooking, though it faded over an hour or so, and completely dissipated in the reheated gumbo the next day. I'll try the lighter version next time.
Posted by Evil Little Thing
Member since Jul 2013
11228 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 4:31 pm to
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If Kary's roux is wrong, I don't wanna be right.


Hell yeah. I bought Kary's because of this board. It is delicious.
Posted by Honky Lips
Member since Dec 2015
2828 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 6:32 pm to
I've used jar Roux twice in my life. A couple of years ago I bought a jar of Savoie's and really didn't care for it.

This weekend I got lazy for my turkey gumbo and decided to give Kary's a try. LIGHT YEARS better than Savoie's.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26995 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 6:42 pm to
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So what's in jar Roux that gives it that "off" taste?


Your imagination?

Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48847 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 7:00 pm to
I'm not against jarred roux but I just don't see the need. How much does a jar cost?

When I make a roux I make about two quarts at a time, put it in mason jars and keep for a couple of months at least in icebox. Takes 25 minutes to make.

Then I have homemade jarred roux for when I'm in a rush which is mostly never.
Posted by Honky Lips
Member since Dec 2015
2828 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 7:24 pm to
quote:

When I make a roux I make about two quarts at a time, put it in mason jars and keep for a couple of months at least in icebox. Takes 25 minutes to make.


I guess that was my question. Roux is (supposed to be) just oil and flour. So theoretically jarred Roux should taste just like homemade.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48847 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 7:38 pm to
I've never used it so I couldn't tell you although I'm sure I've eaten gumbo with someone else using.

I just find it easy to make a bunch at one time as it is to make a little so that's what I do. Something to me about building a good roux is satisfying. I have way too many distractions that need instant gratification in my life and some things I just don't want to be rushed. Roux and a good glass of wine are two of those things.

This post was edited on 11/27/16 at 7:40 pm
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
103070 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 7:46 pm to
I've never not used a store bought roux.my gumbo is to die for.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48847 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:17 pm to
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s to die for.


Please don't say that. Or "to perfection" I hear that and I picture men with sweaters draped over their shoulders.

I'd like to think you are a bit more masculine than that.
Posted by Stadium Rat
Metairie
Member since Jul 2004
9558 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:39 pm to
There is not a damn thing wrong with jarred roux. Word.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48847 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:43 pm to
Didn't say there was.

Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26995 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:52 pm to
If I make roux in the house, it smells like roux for 24 hours.

If I screw up roux it smells for 3-4 days.
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