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re: Stabs Jefferson Hwy

Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:38 pm to
Posted by Trout Bandit
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:38 pm to
No there was a small parcel between the back of the bank parking lot and the back yard fences of their new neighbors that they purchased and converted to parking. That Google Map pic doesn't show the new parking spaces. I still don't think there's enough parking.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38832 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 5:30 pm to
this isn't in response to anyone in particular but the number of restaurant business experts on this board is astounding. i had no idea there were so many successful restaurateurs posting here
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
47401 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 6:02 pm to
quote:

only good italian food in BR is Nino's.




That's just silly.
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
32446 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 6:05 pm to
quote:

only good italian food in BR is Nino's.




Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48857 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 7:21 pm to
First the only discussion with Bocage and I'm told an agreement is for employee parking. Perhaps they could use it for valet however that means turning left onto Jefferson then into the racquet club-not sure how the GL carrier would treat having valet using public roads. It can happen but it's an added expense to an umbrella that is probably already sizable.

The parcel was purchased to add parking areas and parking is dictated by code based on square footage of gross floor area. Occupancy is also based on square footage of gross floor area and is dictated by the state fire Marshall. These theoretically correlate. For restaurants with no waivers the number is 1 space per 150sf/gfa. Parking spaces can be maximized if using angles because they can be smaller. It may be busy and tight but it will be workable. I hardly think anyone is going to park across Jefferson Highway to have dinner there. At least I'm not.

Posted by Clark W Griswold
THE USA
Member since Sep 2012
10512 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:16 pm to
Maybe next summer. Their construction looks to be managed by LSU based on their progress.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48857 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 10:36 am to
quote:

Maybe next summer. Their construction looks to be managed by LSU based on their progress.


Actually Cajun Contractors is the General Contractor - which is surprising as they are not typically in the commercial construction industry - much less a restaurant which in itself has a lot more than a typical commercial build.

But they have done a complete gut addition and renovation which is tons of work and a restaurant kitchen takes a tremendous amount of work not to mention inspections, permits, fire marshall sign off etc...
Posted by LadyTigress
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2017
632 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:50 am to
quote:

... and parking is dictated by code based on square footage of gross floor area...and is dictated by the state fire Marshall. These theoretically correlate. For restaurants with no waivers the number is 1 space per 150sf/gfa.


Literally no one opening a restaurant in BR ensures this parking code gets followed. The Board will approve new projects and the actual number of spots needed almost never meets code. Ex: Sammy's a few years ago; the Merchant; the new Superior Grill; Rum House/Olive or Twist etc etc..

It's simple, the owner/contractor applying for permits calls up JoeSchmoe on the board, "Hey look, we're a couple spots shy of what we need, this going to be a problem?" - "Nah man, I got ya covered." Goes through board approval and fast forward to people circling around the lot and end up parking far away or illegally. And Board member gets treated at said establishment. Louisiana politics for ya.
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 11:53 am
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48857 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:59 am to
quote:

Literally no one opening a restaurant in BR ensures this parking code gets followed. The Board will approve new projects and the actual number of spots needed almost never meets code. Ex: Sammy's a few years ago; the Merchant; the new Superior Grill; Rum House/Olive or Twist etc etc.. It's simple, the owner/contractor applying for permits calls up JoeSchmoe on the board, "Hey look, we're a couple spots shy of what we need, this going to be a problem?" - "Nah man, I got ya covered." Goes through board approval and fast forward to people circling around the lot and end up parking far away or illegally. And Board member gets treated at said establishment. Louisiana politics for ya.


You know how I know you've never owned or run a business or have an actual clue how things work?

Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38832 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 12:12 pm to
no offense to the lady but you've not a clue what you are talking about
Posted by NoCarsGo
Baton Rouge and I-10
Member since Nov 2015
115 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 12:29 pm to
lol, too good! Parking Politics 101
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
39785 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 12:48 pm to
listen here, you better start respecting wahmen
Posted by LadyTigress
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2017
632 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 1:17 pm to
it's all good. I have close friends in the industry here. I am not saying all the examples above worked like that, but the Board that approves BR new restaurant parking lots and spaces reqd, they look the other way.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38832 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

the Board that approves BR new restaurant parking lots and spaces reqd, they look the other way.

they most certainly do not
most often they err on the high side of required parking spaces, drive lane width, etc
Posted by LadyTigress
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2017
632 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 1:41 pm to
Then why is it that all the newest restaurants in town have far too few spots? Speaking of, weren't you the GC on the BRQ project? Case in point. They are so packed on the weekends, the cars have to spill over into the lot next door and jump over the ditch. It's a great problem that these places are so popular that people are beating down their door, but to act like all these places in town have remotely acceptable amount of parking is joke.

Bistro Byronz on Govt, K Street Grill, The Merchant, Olive or Twist/Rum House, the up and coming Superior is about to have issues with this....I am pointing out the obvious.

Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38832 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 1:48 pm to
you don't know what you are talking about and I'm not inclined to explain it to you
there are a set number of required parks based on dining room SF, nothing gets approved below that without a waiver and there are very seldom waivers granted
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 1:49 pm
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38832 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

BRQ project? Case in point. They are so packed on the weekends, the cars have to spill over into the lot next door and jump over the ditch. It's a great problem that these places are so popular that people are beating down their door, but to act like all these places in town have remotely acceptable amount of parking is joke.


just so you can inform yourself...i will reply to this.
based on BRQ's SF, 37 total parking spots were required. we built 53 (the max that the lot would allow). the fact that their lot is full is because they are popular, not because they decided not to install enough spots
Posted by LadyTigress
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2017
632 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:21 pm to


so then the formula for spots reqd based on capacity is off?
Posted by LSUAfro
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
12775 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 9:30 pm to
quote:

LadyTigress


Gotta love the anecdotal declarations based on who knows what.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30268 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 1:55 am to
I don't feel like making a new thread for this.

Anyone know why Nino's closed? I thought that they did good business? I passed by this week and saw that it was gone.
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