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re: NOLA restaurant news -- Besh and Alon Shaya parting ways

Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:14 pm to
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36419 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:14 pm to
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LINK

Wow




"Extremely dangerous and toxic environment for young women and/or non-white, non-heteronormative … "

Wait, so they are harassing gays too? I thought it was women? Or maybe it's just total bullshite from the perpetually aggrieved population. I'm going with the latter.
This post was edited on 10/11/17 at 8:15 pm
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:36 pm to
Or maybe because the pomegranate is a symbol of rebirth....Persephone eats six pomegranate seeds offered by Hades, and thus spends 6 months n the underworld and six months with the living. It's woven throughout Mediterranean mythology, from ancient Egypt, Greece, and Rome to Persia and Armenia.

Also, they have beautiful carnation like flowers in the spring.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:52 pm to
Nah, it's the Rosh Hashanah relation. Makes the most sense.
Posted by MiloDanglers
on a dock on a bay
Member since Apr 2012
6544 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:12 pm to
Cant wait for people to start talking about how the pita at Shaya aint as good as it used to be
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58132 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 11:00 pm to
quote:

I'm going with the latter


That would be my guess right now. Besh has been at this for quite a while and I've never read of or heard of these issues and his places all seems to be ran very well.
Toxic environment wouldn't be something that comes to mind as a guest.
I guess it could be different for an employee.

I'm sure Alon is a good guy too. I hope they can get this "divorce" cleaned up and go about being good at what they do.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 5:04 am to
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Cant wait for people to start talking about how the pita at Shaya aint as good as it used to be



The pitas used to rain from the heavens like manna to the chosen people. Now, they make you scrap over a single pita like the suspiciously odd number of Ryan's dinner rolls in a group of 4.
This post was edited on 10/12/17 at 5:05 am
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48847 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 6:25 am to
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non-heteronormative … "


Got up early, had two cups of coffee, couple of scrambled eggs, read this thread, learned a new word so back to bed.
Posted by BlackenedOut
The Big Sleazy
Member since Feb 2011
5805 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 9:23 am to
quote:

The pitas used to rain from the heavens like manna to the chosen people.


I noticed this also. Went in for a Sunday lunch about a month ago. Took a very long time (approx 45 minutes) to get the dips, which should be pretty instantaneous (not like they are making labneh to order). And then Pita for a party of 8 was doled out 2 pieces at a time. Picked up on something in the air on that visit...
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278418 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 11:57 am to
Domenica was charging for bread the last time I was there. It was actually on th menu. It used to be on the house iirc
This post was edited on 10/12/17 at 12:01 pm
Posted by Tiger Live2
Westwego, LA
Member since Mar 2012
9590 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 12:39 pm to
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Domenica was charging for bread the last time I was there. It was actually on th menu. It used to be on the house iirc

It's free again. About a month ago.
Posted by TigerGrl73
Nola
Member since Jan 2004
21278 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

Domenica was charging for bread the last time I was there.

They started charging when they switched to Bellegarde bread.
Posted by Tiger Live2
Westwego, LA
Member since Mar 2012
9590 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

They started charging when they switched to Bellegarde bread.

They make bread in-house now. And I actually like it better than the Bellegarde bread.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38804 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 1:42 pm to
quote:


The pitas used to rain from the heavens like manna to the chosen people. Now, they make you scrap over a single pita like the suspiciously odd number of Ryan's dinner rolls in a group of 4.

noticed that the last time i went as well
very subtle but noticeable change
Posted by lighter345
Member since Jan 2009
11864 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 2:46 am to
Agreed that it is a bit of a stretch considering how long he's been in the spotlight, but I wouldn't write it off completely.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48847 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 6:33 am to
quote:

quote:
They started charging when they switched to Bellegarde bread.

They make bread in-house now. And I actually like it better than the Bellegarde bread.


A lot of restaurants now charge for bread and have bread "programs"

I don't mind paying as long as it is good bread. It can be a pretty significant expense and to me ones that don't are just leaving money on the table in an already slim margin business.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 11:06 am to
I loathe the term “program” in relation to anything in a restaurant. It’s bloody awful management-speak. Cocktail program, bread program....it’s sad that a restaurant above a certain pricing point has to brag that it’s using quality ingredients and making things in-house. It lends a corporate tone to the whole dining experience. I tend not to patronize places where such language enters the servers’ interaction with the guests (or worse, intrudes into the menu, website, or general PR spewed forth by the establishment).
Posted by lsuaudio
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2004
745 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 5:37 pm to
This was posted on the Pomegranate instagram acct. Guess he’s out at Shaya. Wonder how that will affect things.



quote:

We are so exited that Chef Zach will soon be joining our team, and we can’t wait for his first day. Here is a message from him: “Upon returning to New Orleans three years ago, I had no idea what was in store for my life and for my career. I'm so grateful to everyone involved in Shaya Restaurant, from our guests to our staff, and for this opportunity to cook Israeli food in a city that I love. I deeply value the life-changing opportunities I've been given. I'm looking forward to starting the next chapter of my career as Culinary Director for Pomegranate Hospitality.”
Posted by TheVig10
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
451 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 5:41 pm to
Man, this is getting pretty interesting.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79139 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 6:03 pm to
Besh will assume the position of executive chef himself and curate new hummus recipes brought to you by Zatarains
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36419 posts
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:32 am to
quote:

This was posted on the Pomegranate instagram acct. Guess he’s out at Shaya. Wonder how that will affect things.



quote:
We are so exited that Chef Zach will soon be joining our team, and we can’t wait for his first day. Here is a message from him: “Upon returning to New Orleans three years ago, I had no idea what was in store for my life and for my career. I'm so grateful to everyone involved in Shaya Restaurant, from our guests to our staff, and for this opportunity to cook Israeli food in a city that I love. I deeply value the life-changing opportunities I've been given. I'm looking forward to starting the next chapter of my career as Culinary Director for Pomegranate Hospitality.”



with Engel now gone too is it fair to worry about a drop off in quality? Forgive me if I don't know the insider details but are there any links left between Shaya as it began and as it is now post Pomegranate?
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