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Posted on 7/23/15 at 10:33 am to
Posted by LSUGrad00
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 10:33 am to
I've never eaten a fig... I blame it on a hatred for fig newtons as a child.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 10:42 am to
quote:

From experience, you need a lot of figs to get much taste in the beer. Color comes through a little, but flavor is slight. At least from the local small LA figs.

Speaking of which, I need to keg my fig saison this afternoon


I was thinking of using some Franco Belge Caramunich 80L. And about 5 lbs of figs. I know figs are not very flavorful, but don't want to overdue it either.
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 10:52 am to
Just playing around with the recipe, this is what i got.

Estimated OG: 1.057 SG
Estimated Color: 13.8 SRM
Estimated IBU: 26.1 IBUs

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
6 lbs 8.0 oz Pilsen (BestMälz) (1.8 SRM) Grain 1 36.6 %
3 lbs Pale Ale Malt 2-Row (Briess) (1.8 SRM) Grain 2 16.9 %
1 lbs 12.0 oz Caramel Munich 80L (Franco-Belges) (80.0 Grain 3 9.9 %
8.0 oz Vienna (BestMälz) (4.1 SRM) Grain 4 2.8 %
0.50 oz Warrior [15.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 5 22.8 IBUs
0.50 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 10.0 Hop 6 3.3 IBUs
1.0 pkg French Saison (Wyeast Labs #3711) [50.28 Yeast 7 -
5 lbs Fruit - Turkey Figs (0.0 SRM) Adjunct 8 28.2 %
1 lbs Honey (1.0 SRM) Sugar 9 5.6 %
0.50 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days Hop 10 0.0 IBUs

Estimate FG = 1.006
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 11:33 am to
and i just read this on homebrewtalk

quote:

There's a killer technique for using figs. Brew a BDSA. When it's done fermenting, super heat a wok over a burner. Caramelize the figs in the wok, then deglaze with some of the beer. Add all that to a secondary and rack the beer from primary on to it.
Posted by s14suspense
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:43 pm to
Sounds somewhat odd for beer but worth a shot I guess.
Posted by Fratastic423
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:50 pm to
I think that process would work well in a dubbel but for a saison that would get syrupy quickly I imagine.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

I think that process would work well in a dubbel but for a saison that would get syrupy quickly I imagine.


You are probably right. Still need to find some turkey figs though. I have a buddy that has some, but i don't feel like driving 40 minutes there to go get them.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 10:12 pm to
Nice Article from The Mad Fermentationist:

quote:

Don’t Waste Your Beer Money!
Homebrewing is a hobby that always has a shiny new piece of gear to buy with your beer money. Now that I make a little bit of money from the hobby (between writing, consulting, hocking t-shirts, and Amazon Associate Links like those below) I get to write-off what I spend. This forces me to actually track my spending more closely than I did when I was brewing purely for the love of the beer. It also means I sometimes get some ingredients or equipment for free that I wouldn't have otherwise purchased. Here’s a list of nine things that I don’t think have provided a good ROI (return on investment) - or wouldn't had I purchased them. I’m certain a few of you will disagree with every one of the items on the list. If I'm missing some big advantage, an alternate use, or if they've improved, let me know! Also, feel free to post a comment if you’ve got anything that you’ve been disappointed with, save the rest of us a few (hundred) dollars!
Posted by I_heart_beer
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 12:32 am to
Good list. Only thing I'd omit would be The Thermapen and Keg lines. I went thru several cheap thermometers before getting a Thermapen and always had a little bit of uneasiness relying on them, and they'd always need a decent tweek when recalibrating. The Thermapen has been spot on since day one.
And with the keg lines, I've never had a horrible experience with regular food grade vinyl tubing but the Accuflex tubing I use was fairly inexpensive and I have never had flavors carry over.
Posted by Fratastic423
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 7:40 am to
I am going to start a kettle sour this afternoon for the first time in a long time. Since I did no prep work (what's new) I am going to just go with the unmashed grain route in lieu of going to buy a Lacto wyeast pack. I have a slight interest in using a Probiotic but that would still require that I go to the store, which has little chance of happening.

So here is what I was thinking recipe wise:

Mostly North Carolina Riverbend Malt House grain
40% 6-Row
40% Wheat
10% Rye
10% Flaked Wheat

Then something like 15 IBU's at some point
Fermented with a blend of 3711 and Canadian Belgian Yeast
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
2428 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 4:09 pm to
quote:

I am going to start a kettle sour this afternoon for the first time in a long time.


How'd the brew go?

I'm going to fire up a lacto start this weekend for a sour brew next week. Will probably go 50%/50% pils and wheat with this one and throw it one some such fruit after primary.


Posted by Fratastic423
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Posted on 7/25/15 at 11:36 am to
I got a late jump last night so I let it cool down over night inside. Wort was still at 120 this morning so I added a lb of 6 row and put it in the shed. Hopefully it gets sour enough today and tonight so I can finish it up in the morning. If not I'll wait until tomorrow evening
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 7/27/15 at 7:15 am to
Tasted my German Hefeweizen this weekend. It came out really good. Finished higher than expected (1.02) and is a little low on the ABV range (4.2%), but it tastes pretty good. Get some moderately strong banana notes. Has about a week or so to really mature, but it's not bad at all. Next weekend i'll be able to try the other half i racked on blueberries.

ETA: Also, i'm surprised at the clarity in the beer. Was expecting a much hazier beer.
This post was edited on 7/27/15 at 9:31 am
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 7/27/15 at 9:43 am to
what kind of pH meters do you guys use? I figure since I have a couple sours going now I might want to check the pH
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 7/27/15 at 10:17 am to
I have this pH meter from Omega and it works great.



LINK

That said, I bought the pH meter and had all kinds of ambitions to test sours, check mash pH, and post boil pH. yeah, I'm too lazy for all that shite.

I check the pH of my sours, but outside of that I dont touch it. On top of that I find pH reading is only slightly better at telling me where I want to be than tasting the souring wort.

If I were to do it all over again, I'd probably spend the money on hops, grain, or some other upgrade I'd use more regularly.
Posted by I_heart_beer
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/27/15 at 1:08 pm to
I use this Hanna pH checker:
Hanna

I calibrate and test mash pH every time I think about it and add a little lactic acid if needed to adjust pH.
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 7/27/15 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

If I were to do it all over again, I'd probably spend the money on hops, grain, or some other upgrade I'd use more regularly.


Thanks for that. Makes me feel a little better about not really wanting to mess with a pH meter.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
Member since Aug 2004
15938 posts
Posted on 7/27/15 at 1:19 pm to
I'm not interested in the number enough to spend $75-$100 on one
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 7/27/15 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

I'd probably spend the money on hops, grain, or some other upgrade I'd use more regularly


This exact thought process went through my head recently. I was about to pull the trigger on one, but ended up buying more kegs instead. I have my mash pH dialed in enough to get good conversion, and like you said, your tongue is a good pH meter for sours. I'd really like a fun gadget, and I'll eventually get one, but for now more kegs seemed like the better buy for me.
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
2428 posts
Posted on 7/27/15 at 2:54 pm to
quote:

Thanks for that.


Honestly, I've purchased and not used/under used so much brewing equipment over the years it's stupid.

Actually instead of homebrewing tips I can provide a list of shite I would/wouldn't do/buy again...

Things I would NOT do again..

pH Meter - As noted above I rarely use it

Plate Chiller - duda diesel kind of screwed me on this one. They (after asking over the phone) sold me a plate chiller they knew wouldn't work for brewing. It didn't chill any faster than an immersion with whirlpool AND was a pain in the arse to sanitize/clean.

Direct fire MT without a RIMS - I built a direct fire keggle MT so I could mash larger beers and it worked, but was a complete pain in the arse in winter. So I went from cooler to direct fire MT w/ no RIMS back to cooler finally to direct fire with RIMS... want to mash more grains? buy a bigger cooler.

Fancy paintball CO2 regulator - Works great, way overpriced at the time I bought it never use it. I would use it more if it didn't take forever to refill paintball CO2 canisters.

SS Perlick Taps - These were awesome, looked great, and worked as advertised, but when my last kegerator died I sold them and really don't miss them at all. All the kegs in my kegerator are on picnic taps now and they work fine.


Things I would do again..

Sterile Siphon Starter w/CO2 connection - I've set this up to use my CO2 tank to push from my carboys to the out post of a CO2 purged keg. Cheap, Clean, Works great

Secondary Regulator Bank - I sold this at the same time I sold the perlick taps.. I really miss this. It was nice to be able to force carb one batch while keeping the rest of the kegs at serving pressure. I will end up buying another bank at some point.

RIMS - Hitting my mash temp and maintaining it over the hour drove me a little batty (this was before beersmith2). For me RIMS was the brewing equivalent to set it and forget it. I get my strike water close, add grains, hit a few buttons, and walk away.

RO Water System - I like the idea of working from a blank slate that you get with RO. It makes salt/acid calculations simple and makes it easier to share recipes across water sources. **I had guilt for a while about all the waste water. I use it for star san, cleaning, and watering plants now.**

7G Chronical Fermenter - Totally unnecessary and kind of expensive, but it's a lot of fun and super easy to clean.

TriClover Fittings - I tried a ton of different connectors before landing on these. I really like these; they are clean, easy to sanitize, and don't leak. They are also REALLY expensive and don't add any value to your beer in any way. They should probably be somewhere between would and wouldn't. I don't regret buying them, but I could have used elsewhere.
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