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re: Gumbo terminology

Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:38 am to
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:38 am to
quote:

I visited a friend who busted out a recipe to make chicken and sausage gumbo. I'll leave it to your imagination to guess how it tasted.


How did it taste? Was it his method of cooking, or do you not consider chicken and sausage a real gumbo?

I've come to realize a few things with Gumbo.

New Orleans and coast regions - seafood gumbo
The country (Baton Rouge and west) - Chicken and Sausage.

Personally, i prefer a good country gumbo over seafood, because i'm not from the coast and didn't grow up on a mostly seafood diet.
Posted by Party At LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
10694 posts
Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:45 am to
quote:

I've come to realize a few things with Gumbo.

New Orleans and coast regions - seafood gumbo
The country (Baton Rouge and west) - Chicken and Sausage.

Personally, i prefer a good country gumbo over seafood, because i'm not from the coast and didn't grow up on a mostly seafood diet.



I don't think it has to be either/or.

I've made sausage/shrimp gumbo.
I've made chicken/shrimp/crab gumbo.

But the absolute best one I've ever done, and would put it on a menu if I opened a restaurant, is a roasted duck/lump crab gumbo. Those two go perfectly together.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112460 posts
Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:45 am to
Haven't read this thread because it's too long. But to answer the OP. I call the liquid in Gumbo "the liquid."
Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
31765 posts
Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:47 am to
I have to give Wallow credit, he can paraphrase a Wikipedia article pretty good, but omits a slew of other cultures names across the world(whose ogrigin is undetermined) for the plant.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52787 posts
Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:51 am to
quote:

I don't think it has to be either/or.


I didn't say it was either or. I have noticed, in general, that's what people put in their gumbo. It has to do with availability with the region. Sure i've made seafood gumbo before, but a good duck and sausage gumbo is my favorite. Which is why i'm making a smoked duck, quail, and sausage gumbo sunday.

Another regional dish i noticed, for holidays.

Country: Rice Dressing, Cornbread Dressing
Coastal: Mirliton, Oyster Dressing
Posted by TigerSpy
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
9897 posts
Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:53 am to
quote:

Okra is required to call it Gumbo. Period. Otherwise it's more akin to stew.

A File' Gumbo is much closer to a soup than a stew.
Posted by htownjeep
Republic of Texas
Member since Jun 2005
7612 posts
Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:59 am to
(not directed to you Bug, just a comment)

Why in the hell does everyone care what anyone else does to their gumbo or what they call it?

If you like okra in there and it makes you happy, rock on.
Tomatoes? Not for me, but if you and yours like it, throw them in there too!
Duck? Sure, why not?
Crab vs Krab? Again, not for me.

Hell, I couldn't care less if you like gumballs in your gumbo. If that's what you like then cook the shite out of it and stay happy.

And to the OP, I just call it gumbo. There's the roux in the beginning and then things like trinity, meat and stock are added. The culmination of this delicious treat to me is Gumbo. I don't differentiate after it comes together.
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
14978 posts
Posted on 1/18/13 at 9:46 pm to
quote:

You are not the gumbo buddha, and your claims to be one are an affront to all gumbo cookers.


Pot......meet kettle.

You guys know I'm right on this and that's why it bugs you so much. No amount of rationalizing can change the facts. Face it, Gumbo has Okra. I sprinkle file on mine too and sprinkle a few fresh chopped green onions on top for extra added measure. The local Native Americans introduced us to ground sassafras leaves and it's a good ingredient but traditionally Gumbo included okra otherwise it is stew no matter what you call it.
Period. /thread
Posted by fatboydave
Fat boy land
Member since Aug 2004
17979 posts
Posted on 1/19/13 at 12:34 am to
gradu?
Posted by Tigercat
Tacoma, WA
Member since Feb 2004
4518 posts
Posted on 1/19/13 at 12:57 am to
quote:

You guys know I'm right on this and that's why it bugs you so much


This from someone who has to reassure he won an arguement by typing out such several times, and yet keeps coming back to argue his point.

Your arguement is no more correct than someone who claimed without a doubt that gumbo needs filé because Gumbo essentially comes from the a native american word for it.

Without filé all you have is an Okra stew?

(As an aside, you clearly don't know much about cuisine in general if you think most gumbos have the consistency of stews.)
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
14978 posts
Posted on 1/19/13 at 8:30 am to
quote:

Without filé all you have is an Okra stew?

(As an aside, you clearly don't know much about cuisine in general if you think most gumbos have the consistency of stews.)


This from someone who needs to put words in my mouth to attempt to discredit me and bolster his lame argument.

As far as consistency of stew and Gumbo goes, it's a personal preference. Everyone has their own. The main point though is that it's not Gumbo without okra, but you can call it whatever you want. I really don't care.
Posted by Stadium Rat
Metairie
Member since Jul 2004
9554 posts
Posted on 1/19/13 at 8:39 am to
quote:

Gumbo has Okra. I sprinkle file on mine too

This is not done. What you have then is not gumbo, it's a mess.
Posted by BengalBen
Midwest
Member since May 2008
2221 posts
Posted on 1/19/13 at 8:53 am to
quote:

This is not done. What you have then is not gumbo, it's a mess.


Agree....well said.
Posted by Fight4LSU
Kenner
Member since Jul 2005
9755 posts
Posted on 1/19/13 at 8:56 am to
IMO, okra is only good in seafood gumbo. Okra will not touch a chicken a sausage gumbo in my house.
Yeah yeah, okra means gumbo yada yada, but I know if wallowinit walks into my moms kitchen and called her gumbo a stew because of his wikipedia BS, he'd be peeling himself off the concrete.

A stew has a thicker gravy. Gumbo is more watered down. It doesn't take a scientist to know that difference.
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
28904 posts
Posted on 1/19/13 at 9:03 am to
I'm glad Afeaux was able to get an alter this time that works.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
47375 posts
Posted on 1/19/13 at 11:46 am to
quote:

The main point though is that it's not Gumbo without okra, but you can call it whatever you want. I really don't care.


If you really don't care, stop posting in this thread.
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