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Posted on 1/18/13 at 7:57 am to Kajungee
gumbo is gumbo, doesn't matter what's in it.
Stop with the okra BS.
Stop with the okra BS.
Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:10 am to wallowinit
We had a thread a couple of years ago that dealt with this that a historian was asked about. Its believed that there may actually be two completely separate dishes one derived from okra and one derived from sassafras. Both with simular sounding names.
What is more likely that the west african version of the dish is what we make today or the version that early cajuns used to thicken with file? The fact is that cajuns put anything they could in the dish that they had available. They may or may not have had okra so they did without when they didnt have it.
Anyone stating that its a FACT that the Dish Gumbo is derived from an African word of okra isnt stating a fact at all. Its very much in debate and unsettled about the origin.
Bantu word ki ngombo or choctaw word kombo.
Neither is directly "GUMBO"
What is more likely that the west african version of the dish is what we make today or the version that early cajuns used to thicken with file? The fact is that cajuns put anything they could in the dish that they had available. They may or may not have had okra so they did without when they didnt have it.
Anyone stating that its a FACT that the Dish Gumbo is derived from an African word of okra isnt stating a fact at all. Its very much in debate and unsettled about the origin.
Bantu word ki ngombo or choctaw word kombo.
Neither is directly "GUMBO"
Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:15 am to Spaulding Smails
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Some, like myself, find it unholy to put okra in gumbo
Except for the fact that the dish was created around the use of Okra.
Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:20 am to Catman88
quote:No way. Mawmaw's version of history > fancy book learnin'.
We had a thread a couple of years ago that dealt with this that a historian was asked about. Its believed that there may actually be two completely separate dishes one derived from okra and one derived from sassafras. Both with simular sounding names.
What is more likely that the west african version of the dish is what we make today or the version that early cajuns used to thicken with file? The fact is that cajuns put anything they could in the dish that they had available. They may or may not have had okra so they did without when they didnt have it.
Anyone stating that its a FACT that the Dish Gumbo is derived from an African word of okra isnt stating a fact at all. Its very much in debate and unsettled about the origin.
Bantu word ki ngombo or choctaw word kombo.
Neither is directly "GUMBO"
Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:31 am to sweetbobber
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Folks, I'm coonass, I know.
because coonasses know everything.........
Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:34 am to INFIDEL
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I have heard that if you dehydrate the okra before you put it in then it won't get slimy.
or, brown at the same time you brown your Sausage.......no slime!!
Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:45 am to TreeDawg
Say it to yourself.
"Can I get some of that chicken and sausage "stew"? It's cold outside"
BTW, it's called juice
"Can I get some of that chicken and sausage "stew"? It's cold outside"
BTW, it's called juice
Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:48 am to Kickadawgitfeelsgood
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"Can I get some of that chicken and sausage "stew"?
I like Chicken Stew, but I don't put Sausage in it.........
or Okra.......
Posted on 1/18/13 at 9:02 am to BigMike15
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what is the actual liquid in a gumbo called?
Stock.
If you use anything else, such as water, for the liquid, IWNHI.
Posted on 1/18/13 at 9:48 am to TIGRLEE
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The answer is juice.
If you live west of the basin and don't use a recipe
Posted on 1/18/13 at 9:53 am to wallowinit
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The word Gumbo is derived from the African word for Okra.
African ain't a language. You lose.
Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:06 am to BigMike15
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what is the actual liquid in a gumbo called?
Gumbo. It's the final product. The roux gives the gumbo base, and the stock gives it the soupiness to it. You can't have one without the other in a gumbo.
Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:09 am to Kickadawgitfeelsgood
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If you live west of the basin and don't use a recipe
I understand the coonass mentality that their way is the only way and everything they do is better, but this ole Washington Parish Redneck would be glad to have Gumbo Cooking throwdown with any of y'all.........BRING IT BITCHES!!!
Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:09 am to wallowinit
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Agreed. I don't know where this slimy business comes from concerning okra. I suppose it came from somebody's mama who didn't know how to cook.
You have never cooked okra, obviously. If i am going to use okra, i usually cut it in 1 inch pieces and cook it on a hot pan. Cooks off most of the slime. Then, you add it to a gumbo.
I don't usually put okra in my gumbo. Okra is not necessary for gumbo. What is necessary? Roux, Stock, Meat (either seafood, chicken, duck, sausage or combination thereof).
Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:12 am to BugAC
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what is the actual liquid in a gumbo called?
Gumbo. It's the final product. The roux gives the gumbo base, and the stock gives it the soupiness to it. You can't have one without the other in a gumbo.
This....thank you Bug......
Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:14 am to BugAC
How much okra do you think the future slaves smuggled into the holds of ships while transiting the Atlantic?
Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:22 am to TreeDawg
quote:I'm not one of those. I did share a good laugh over the holidays. I visited a friend who busted out a recipe to make chicken and sausage gumbo. I'll leave it to your imagination to guess how it tasted.
I understand the coonass mentality that their way is the only way and everything they do is better
This post was edited on 1/18/13 at 10:24 am
Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:24 am to wallowinit
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wallowinit
What region of Louisiana are you from?
Okra is not gumbo. The addition of okra does not make something gumbo, therefore the non-addition of okra does not mean it is not gumbo.
Secondly, you do not know what a stew is. A stew, IMO, is much thicker than a gumbo, and a bit more heartier. A stew could consist of a wide variety of things, whereas a gumbo is consistent of 3 main parts. Roux, Stock, Meat. Anything you add to a gumbo after that is lagniappe. You are not the gumbo buddha, and your claims to be one are an affront to all gumbo cookers.
Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:28 am to Kickadawgitfeelsgood
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I'm not one of those. I did share a good laugh over the holidays. I visited a friend who busted out a recipe to make chicken and sausage gumbo. I'll leave it to your imagination to guess how it tasted.
No worries Bro......
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