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re: Gumbo terminology

Posted on 1/18/13 at 7:06 am to
Posted by Kajungee
South ,Section 6 Row N
Member since Mar 2004
17033 posts
Posted on 1/18/13 at 7:06 am to
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Gumbo terminology


What is what my backyards look like after 2 weeks of solid rain Alex.
Posted by jakedel12
Dallas, Texas
Member since Nov 2006
1449 posts
Posted on 1/18/13 at 7:57 am to
gumbo is gumbo, doesn't matter what's in it.

Stop with the okra BS.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:10 am to
We had a thread a couple of years ago that dealt with this that a historian was asked about. Its believed that there may actually be two completely separate dishes one derived from okra and one derived from sassafras. Both with simular sounding names.

What is more likely that the west african version of the dish is what we make today or the version that early cajuns used to thicken with file? The fact is that cajuns put anything they could in the dish that they had available. They may or may not have had okra so they did without when they didnt have it.

Anyone stating that its a FACT that the Dish Gumbo is derived from an African word of okra isnt stating a fact at all. Its very much in debate and unsettled about the origin.

Bantu word ki ngombo or choctaw word kombo.

Neither is directly "GUMBO"

Posted by TreeDawg
Central, La.
Member since Jan 2005
27116 posts
Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:15 am to
quote:

Some, like myself, find it unholy to put okra in gumbo



Except for the fact that the dish was created around the use of Okra.
Posted by Politiceaux
Member since Feb 2009
17654 posts
Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:20 am to
quote:


We had a thread a couple of years ago that dealt with this that a historian was asked about. Its believed that there may actually be two completely separate dishes one derived from okra and one derived from sassafras. Both with simular sounding names.

What is more likely that the west african version of the dish is what we make today or the version that early cajuns used to thicken with file? The fact is that cajuns put anything they could in the dish that they had available. They may or may not have had okra so they did without when they didnt have it.

Anyone stating that its a FACT that the Dish Gumbo is derived from an African word of okra isnt stating a fact at all. Its very much in debate and unsettled about the origin.

Bantu word ki ngombo or choctaw word kombo.

Neither is directly "GUMBO"
No way. Mawmaw's version of history > fancy book learnin'.
Posted by TreeDawg
Central, La.
Member since Jan 2005
27116 posts
Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:31 am to
quote:

Folks, I'm coonass, I know.


because coonasses know everything.........
Posted by TreeDawg
Central, La.
Member since Jan 2005
27116 posts
Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:34 am to
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I have heard that if you dehydrate the okra before you put it in then it won't get slimy.


or, brown at the same time you brown your Sausage.......no slime!!
Posted by Kickadawgitfeelsgood
Lafayette LA
Member since Nov 2005
14089 posts
Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:45 am to
Say it to yourself.

"Can I get some of that chicken and sausage "stew"? It's cold outside"

BTW, it's called juice
Posted by TreeDawg
Central, La.
Member since Jan 2005
27116 posts
Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:48 am to
quote:

"Can I get some of that chicken and sausage "stew"?


I like Chicken Stew, but I don't put Sausage in it.........

or Okra.......
Posted by Party At LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
10693 posts
Posted on 1/18/13 at 9:02 am to
quote:

what is the actual liquid in a gumbo called?


Stock.

If you use anything else, such as water, for the liquid, IWNHI.
Posted by Kickadawgitfeelsgood
Lafayette LA
Member since Nov 2005
14089 posts
Posted on 1/18/13 at 9:48 am to
quote:

The answer is juice.


If you live west of the basin and don't use a recipe

Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 1/18/13 at 9:53 am to
quote:

The word Gumbo is derived from the African word for Okra.


African ain't a language. You lose.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52787 posts
Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:06 am to
quote:

what is the actual liquid in a gumbo called?


Gumbo. It's the final product. The roux gives the gumbo base, and the stock gives it the soupiness to it. You can't have one without the other in a gumbo.
Posted by TreeDawg
Central, La.
Member since Jan 2005
27116 posts
Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:09 am to
quote:

If you live west of the basin and don't use a recipe


I understand the coonass mentality that their way is the only way and everything they do is better, but this ole Washington Parish Redneck would be glad to have Gumbo Cooking throwdown with any of y'all.........BRING IT BITCHES!!!
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52787 posts
Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:09 am to
quote:

Agreed. I don't know where this slimy business comes from concerning okra. I suppose it came from somebody's mama who didn't know how to cook.


You have never cooked okra, obviously. If i am going to use okra, i usually cut it in 1 inch pieces and cook it on a hot pan. Cooks off most of the slime. Then, you add it to a gumbo.
I don't usually put okra in my gumbo. Okra is not necessary for gumbo. What is necessary? Roux, Stock, Meat (either seafood, chicken, duck, sausage or combination thereof).
Posted by TreeDawg
Central, La.
Member since Jan 2005
27116 posts
Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:12 am to
quote:

what is the actual liquid in a gumbo called?



Gumbo. It's the final product. The roux gives the gumbo base, and the stock gives it the soupiness to it. You can't have one without the other in a gumbo.



This....thank you Bug......
Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
31765 posts
Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:14 am to
How much okra do you think the future slaves smuggled into the holds of ships while transiting the Atlantic?
Posted by Kickadawgitfeelsgood
Lafayette LA
Member since Nov 2005
14089 posts
Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:22 am to
quote:

I understand the coonass mentality that their way is the only way and everything they do is better
I'm not one of those. I did share a good laugh over the holidays. I visited a friend who busted out a recipe to make chicken and sausage gumbo. I'll leave it to your imagination to guess how it tasted.
This post was edited on 1/18/13 at 10:24 am
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52787 posts
Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:24 am to
quote:

wallowinit


What region of Louisiana are you from?

Okra is not gumbo. The addition of okra does not make something gumbo, therefore the non-addition of okra does not mean it is not gumbo.
Secondly, you do not know what a stew is. A stew, IMO, is much thicker than a gumbo, and a bit more heartier. A stew could consist of a wide variety of things, whereas a gumbo is consistent of 3 main parts. Roux, Stock, Meat. Anything you add to a gumbo after that is lagniappe. You are not the gumbo buddha, and your claims to be one are an affront to all gumbo cookers.
Posted by TreeDawg
Central, La.
Member since Jan 2005
27116 posts
Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:28 am to
quote:

I'm not one of those. I did share a good laugh over the holidays. I visited a friend who busted out a recipe to make chicken and sausage gumbo. I'll leave it to your imagination to guess how it tasted.



No worries Bro......
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