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re: Growler and Crowlers illegal in LA now?

Posted on 1/15/17 at 12:29 pm to
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

That is BR Metro Council, so only affects BR.

What about the rest of the state?


I've only heard of this being enforced in BR when it comes up. Chimes Far East filled my growler when Chimes East wouldnt.

NOLA has separate rules, hence go cups.
Posted by rutiger
purgatory
Member since Jun 2007
21118 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 3:29 pm to
quote:

I thought a law just passed a few weeks ago officially making growler fills legal along with allowing patrons to cork and take home bottles of wine from restaurants?

Here's the link



Supposedly it hasnt been signed by the new mayor yet.
Posted by Geaux2Hell
BR
Member since Sep 2006
4790 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 3:31 pm to
EBR and their bullshite. I could be way off base here but if this came from the metro counsel I wouldn't be shocked if Delgado had something to do with this. Does include Tin Roof and Southern Craft or just restaurants and bars?
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
2428 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 9:02 am to
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It's ridiculous that ATC would choose to cite someone unless the law was crystal clear or they announced ahead of time their interpretation


Was anyone actually cited?

Under previous commissioners the ATC would simply warn potential offenders when a law/ruling was under review.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37084 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

504 is off premise


What does that mean? Because they are not a bar selling for on-premise consumption?

That seems jacked up. A place that simply sells beer can sell it to go, but a place that sells beer to drink there, with all the laws and regulations and licenses required to do that, can't sell it for off premise consumption?
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
14891 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 1:08 pm to
So was there some new development that changed things? Has it always been illegal to do growler fills in EBR and the law just wasnt enforced? I'm confused as to why this is coming up now all of a sudden
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37084 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 1:11 pm to
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It's ridiculous that ATC would choose to cite someone unless the law was crystal clear or they announced ahead of time their interpretation.


The ATC is a bunch of nazis. And I don't say that lightly.

Last year I was volunteering at Jazz Fest with a friend of mine. We were selling beer in one of the beer tents to raise money for a Kiwanis club. Who you know takes the money and invests it in the kids of the community or gives it to other charities.

Apparently these trolls do sting operations at Jazz Fest. Someone comes up to buy a beer. Hands my friend his ID (this booth had 100 percent ID checks going on). Friend looks at it. Does the math in his head, determines that the kid turned 21 the month before. Sells the beer. Apparently, he was off in his math and the kid had just turned 20. The ATC had recorded the entire transaction via a hidden video camera. They fined my friend $500 for underage sales. Thankfully, someone in the club stepped up to pay the fine for him.

Pretty crappy thing to do. I get wanting to stop underage sales, but to fine a volunteer for a math error? I mean my boy asked for the ID and all, just made a mistake in the rush of the moment.

However, I did learn something that day. If you ask a purchaser "Are you 21 or older?" the people used in the sting are not allowed to lie. So they would be forced to say "No" and you can send them away.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37084 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 1:11 pm to
I don't know. and if ATC was involved, do they only deal with state laws, oro do they deal with local laws as well?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112613 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 1:12 pm to
ATC is completely useless and should be scrapped to save taxpayer money.
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14692 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 4:59 pm to
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Was anyone actually cited?




I was at Chimes East on Friday when they came in there and ticketed them. Employees pulled the crowler machine out of the building after that happened.
Posted by Glock17
Member since Oct 2007
22385 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 5:07 pm to
quote:

I was at Chimes East on Friday when they came in there and ticketed them. Employees pulled the crowler machine out of the building after that happened.


That sucks... so you know if it was the ATC (state enforcement) or ABC (parish enforcement)?
Posted by LSUcdro
Republic of West Florida
Member since Sep 2009
11126 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 6:09 pm to
This is EBRP.

It has been illegal, even for on premise, but it looks like they're cracking down

Ive been wanting to be able to fill crowlers and growlers for a while but the parish is cock blocking me
Posted by jennyjones
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Apr 2006
9313 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 6:15 pm to
quote:

This is EBRP.

Ive been wanting to be able to fill crowlers and growlers for a while but the parish is cock blocking me




Broussard>BR as long as the Parish brewing doesn't stop. I'm good
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48838 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 6:17 pm to
This is bullshite. Not sure what can be done. Have to go back to the city council and ask that they allow brew pubs or bars to be able to treat beer as they treat wine.
This post was edited on 1/16/17 at 6:24 pm
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43299 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 6:31 pm to
What a load of horseshite. I can go buy a daiquiri from anywhere and drive around with it in my car as long as the straw is covered with a piece of fricking paper but I cant go to chimes and grab a perfectly sealed crowler? Wtf? What does this accomplish? Most of the beers are lower abv than any wine or daiquiri and the crowler is sealed.

Get your pitchforks and torches ready.
This post was edited on 1/16/17 at 6:32 pm
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
4841 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 6:32 pm to
Chimes East was given a citation from the state ATC, not ABC.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
103053 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 8:05 pm to
This does it. I'm done with craft beer. If they are going to make it this hard why even bother. I'll just drink the hard stuff.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24741 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 8:32 pm to
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This does it. I'm done with craft beer. If they are going to make it this hard why even bother. I'll just drink the hard stuff.


Craft beer is easier in Oregon. They regulate the liquor stores more than beer, here. Costco here can't carry hard liquor, but I can get local craft beer there. There is a taproom on every corner, but you have to drive miles to find a liquor store.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101390 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 8:54 pm to
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I was at Chimes East on Friday when they came in there and ticketed them. Employees pulled the crowler machine out of the building after that happened.


Un-fricking-believable!
Posted by Uncle JackD
Member since Nov 2007
58638 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 9:09 pm to
I guess this means no more crowlers at parish?
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