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re: Baby Back Ribs "Experiment" - Final Result w/Pics

Posted on 5/16/14 at 8:15 am to
Posted by Uncle JackD
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 8:15 am to
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This method looks like more work IMO.

That's what I was thinking... I rather just throw them on the egg for 4 to 5 hours and be done with it.
Posted by Matisyeezy
End of the bar, Drunk
Member since Feb 2012
16624 posts
Posted on 5/16/14 at 8:19 am to
Well, how were they? They don't look bad. Kinda disturbing to not see a ring.

But ribs and a fork?
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117732 posts
Posted on 5/16/14 at 8:21 am to
Why don't you have a coke and a smile and stfu.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
15850 posts
Posted on 5/16/14 at 8:49 am to
Very interesting Degas. I don't have the tools to pull this off, but I like hearing new ideas.

For future reference, the closest ingredient I've found to add smoke flavor without the actual smoke, is a quality smoked paprika. Beats any liquid smoke or any other ingredient I've ever tried by a mile. And you can go pretty heavy with it in the rub.

Nice job.
Posted by zztop1234
Denham Springs
Member since Aug 2008
3709 posts
Posted on 5/16/14 at 8:59 am to
let me just say this .. if a slab of those ribs were in front of me, a dog wouldn't want the bones!

Nice job
Posted by LSUAfro
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 9:03 am to


Looks good.

Seriously 2:15 AM grilling?

Would probably be good with various asian sauces.

The BBQ sauce would make me want the smoke.
Posted by htownjeep
Republic of Texas
Member since Jun 2005
7612 posts
Posted on 5/16/14 at 9:27 am to
Degas,
They lookpretty damned good. But how do they taste? And please be honest and critique them vs traditional. Yeah, I don't like the sauce on the pit either, but I'm not going to freak out

What is your honest opinion on the pro's and con's of doing it this way vs traditional?
Posted by Degas
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 9:32 am to
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But ribs and a fork?
That was a tribute to MD.

I'll give a full report when I have time later. I wanted to get the pics up, enjoy the ribs, then it was bedtime for Bonzo.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
47465 posts
Posted on 5/16/14 at 10:03 am to
They look good to me. I've grllled at that hour many times.
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 10:55 am to
They don't really look fall off the bone like you would think for 48 hours. I thought you were supposed to have about 1/2" of bone exposed on the ends when they are really done
Posted by Richard Castle
St. George, La.
Member since Nov 2012
1888 posts
Posted on 5/16/14 at 10:59 am to
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They might even be good deep fried. I've always wanted to try fried ribs.



I have a buddy that does this at our tailgate. They are excellent.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27155 posts
Posted on 5/16/14 at 11:03 am to
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I thought you were supposed to have about 1/2" of bone exposed on the ends when they are really done


Maybe since they were cooked in an air tight container they didn't shrink due to moisture retention.
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 5/16/14 at 11:07 am to
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I have a buddy that does this at our tailgate. They are excellent.


Does he sauce them before or after the fry? Or at all?
Posted by Uncle JackD
Member since Nov 2007
58667 posts
Posted on 5/16/14 at 11:23 am to
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They might even be good deep fried. I've always wanted to try fried ribs.
Posted by DeepSouthSportsman
frick Bama
Member since Jul 2012
4635 posts
Posted on 5/16/14 at 11:46 am to
Look pretty solid to me. This was a interesting thread.
Posted by kennypowers816
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2010
2446 posts
Posted on 5/16/14 at 11:47 am to
quote:

hey might even be good deep fried. I've always wanted to try fried ribs.



I have a buddy that does this at our tailgate. They are excellent.


You just blew my mind.
Posted by Pierre
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
5289 posts
Posted on 5/16/14 at 12:13 pm to
Great thread and I'm sure the ribs were delicious. I just don't understand the concept of fall off the bone ribs. Mine will be smoky and you are gonna have to pull and use your teeth a little but they will still be tender. But I see where this method would top oven cooked ribs because you can freeze and grill quickly
Posted by Degas
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 1:57 pm to
At no time was I suggesting that this technique of making ribs would ever replace the traditional BBQ method with smoke.

With that said, here's my objective report on the process and how things turned out.

Next time, I'm going to back them off from the 48 hours. They weren't dry, but not as juicy as I'd expected or as I like them to be. Yes, you can hold things at the same temp for hours without overcooking them, but it will change the texture eventually. If it's timed right, this is a good thing because we've all heard what magic low and slow can bring, and this is the ultimate in low and slow. Collagen is broken down, fats in cuts like ribeyes melt in and around the meat, and a general tenderizing takes place. Even though it won't overcook, one of the drawbacks of leaving anything swimming too long is that any salt added to the protein before it goes into the bag has a better chance of curing and drawing out moisture, producing a drier meat. I'm going to either cut back on the time or cut back on the salt content in my rub.

The texture was spot on, and probably one of the best parts about doing it this way. Let's face it, baby backs can be a bit finicky since they're leaner than spare ribs, and I can achieve the same texture and consistency every time. Anyone who's BBQd baby backs has probably apologized to their guests at least once for them being too dry.

As previous posters have mentioned, paprika may add a smokey element, and there is paprika in my rub. I wanted to start with the basics this go, and then tweak in future attempts. I could envision liquid smoke or a bit more paprika. Although it didn't penetrate the ribs for smoke rings, the smoke from the grill was very much present in the flavor.

As for falling off the bone vs. having a bite to them, this was a happy medium. At no time while eating them did any meat simply drop off without my teeth gnawing it off, although the tenderness was incredible. This was awesome because I don't care for fall off the bone ribs. Crock pots can easily produce these.

One of the best things about this method is that I have three more portions waiting for me in the freezer at any time I want to start up the grill. I drop them directly from the freezer into the water bath, and again, the magic of convection works its wonder and will have the meat thawed, warm and ready for the grill even before the charcoal is ready.

The nice thing about this is that I could make batch after batch just as I have, freeze them, and in the future be able to feed a bunch of people from a kettle grill, whereas it can only hold 2 slabs the traditional method. I feasibly could take them out of the water bath and replace them with more from the freezer. Wash, rince, repeat for as many guests as you have.

Another selling point is that you can take advantage of anything on sale, and I mean REALLY take advantage of it. You can buy in bulk and either freeze it raw or cook it as I have, ice it down, then into the freezer so that you can have the meal at sale price any time. In my freezer right now are the three portions of ribs I didn't get to, duck breasts, duck confit, salmon, chicken, uncooked 2" thick bone in ribeyes, etc. The food saver has paid for itself already, and I can have any of these meals any time that I want, regardless if they're on sale or take 72 hours to cook.

As I've stated, this was my first attempt and will be tweaking the recipe slightly, but I was very happy with the result. I will continue to experiment with sous vide to see exactly which foods it's made for. Just as a non stick pan or a microwave are ideal for certain things doesn't mean that everything works with them. I'm anxious to find the hidden gems.
This post was edited on 5/16/14 at 2:20 pm
Posted by Degas
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 2:28 pm to
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They don't really look fall off the bone like you would think for 48 hours. I thought you were supposed to have about 1/2" of bone exposed on the ends when they are really done
You're right. They weren't fall off the bone. 48 hours may seem like a long time, but the meat never exceeds 144 degrees so it will not overcook. The key is getting the meat pasteurized while slowly tenderizing the meat, melting the fat, breaking down the collagen, etc so that the texture is unbelievably spot on.

Also, the reason they didn't pull back from the bone is because of what BB suggested, that the moisture has nowhere to go, which is a plus because as with confit, these ribs poached in their own fat and liquid. Because of this, I can use less seasoning and the flavor will still be intense.

I have a friend who cooks sous vide regularly and is highly recommending vegetables, especially root. Those cook at a much higher temp, 185+, so coordinating a meal can be tricky. I'd need to cook the veggies, then drop the temp for protein. The veggies can stay in the lower temperature water because again, things don't overcook.
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
36710 posts
Posted on 5/16/14 at 6:44 pm to
Looks delicious
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