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Do you want Presidents to have the power to spy on political opponents?
Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:08 am
Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:08 am
That is the issue the memo addresses.
What the FBI did was Hooveresque. Hoover abused the power of the agency and Lynch and Comey did too at the bequest of HRC.
Democrats were outraged at Hoover and should be outraged today.
That party sure has changed for the worse.
What the FBI did was Hooveresque. Hoover abused the power of the agency and Lynch and Comey did too at the bequest of HRC.
Democrats were outraged at Hoover and should be outraged today.
That party sure has changed for the worse.
This post was edited on 2/4/18 at 11:19 am
Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:09 am to I B Freeman
They are communists at heart, so why is anyone surprised when they do communist shite?
Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:11 am to Strannix
It was Republicans for the most part that passed the patriot act.
The Pauls were against and I think so was Sanders.
The Pauls were against and I think so was Sanders.
This post was edited on 2/4/18 at 6:50 pm
Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:11 am to I B Freeman
quote:
Do you want Presidents to have the power to spy on political opponents?
I'm gonna go with the obvious and say 'No'.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:11 am to I B Freeman
The libs are ok with it as long as it's a dem president doing it to a republican.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:13 am to I B Freeman
Only for DNC leftist.
Bill #metoo Clinton enemies list of FBI files stored in White House.
Obama unmasking- muh Russia.
Nixon Watergate.
Bill #metoo Clinton enemies list of FBI files stored in White House.
Obama unmasking- muh Russia.
Nixon Watergate.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:16 am to swlaLSUfan
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Well when you have a Russia lover like Trump it’s not a bad idea.
Now he is the POTUS.
You ok with doing the same to the dems?
Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:20 am to swlaLSUfan
Stupid. Ignores history of abuse of government power.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:20 am to I B Freeman
Hell to the No. GWB created this Monster and Obama used it for the purpose civil libertarians fear.
This is why FISA needs to be eradicated.
This is part of the Patriot Act. It NEEDS TO GO.
If the Federal Government wants to listen to my phone calls, read my text messages, or my emails - it needs to get a specialized warrant in a court in fricking public after a probable cause showing. The proceedings MUST be public because the only only only way to challenge the probable cause finding is through the adversarial process.
It is the ESSENCE of the 4th amendment that there should be no search of someone’s privacy without a specialized warrant. It is the ESSENCE of Due Process that our citizens are entitled to Notice and an Opportunity to be heard.
secret warrants issued by secret courts with no notice or no opportunity to be heard —WILL create abuse. It’s not an if, it’s a when. A judiciary unrestrained by concepts of due process is a car without seatbelts. It is PER SE DANGEROUS.
Dangerous if Obama is driving. Dangerous if Trump is driving. Dangerous if Bush is driving. DANGEROUS.
This is why FISA needs to be eradicated.
This is part of the Patriot Act. It NEEDS TO GO.
If the Federal Government wants to listen to my phone calls, read my text messages, or my emails - it needs to get a specialized warrant in a court in fricking public after a probable cause showing. The proceedings MUST be public because the only only only way to challenge the probable cause finding is through the adversarial process.
It is the ESSENCE of the 4th amendment that there should be no search of someone’s privacy without a specialized warrant. It is the ESSENCE of Due Process that our citizens are entitled to Notice and an Opportunity to be heard.
secret warrants issued by secret courts with no notice or no opportunity to be heard —WILL create abuse. It’s not an if, it’s a when. A judiciary unrestrained by concepts of due process is a car without seatbelts. It is PER SE DANGEROUS.
Dangerous if Obama is driving. Dangerous if Trump is driving. Dangerous if Bush is driving. DANGEROUS.
This post was edited on 2/4/18 at 11:22 am
Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:21 am to swlaLSUfan
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Well when you have a Russia lover like Trump it’s not a bad idea.
Like as said, as long as it's done to a republican
eta: that's how libs think.
I don't think it should done by anyone
This post was edited on 2/4/18 at 11:23 am
Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:30 am to I B Freeman
I'm still shocked that everyone was just fine with him not releasing tax returns. you have to release tax returns to run for city council, but not President?
opens the door for a future forign paid president.
people put blinders on to force themselves to accept it.
opens the door for a future forign paid president.
people put blinders on to force themselves to accept it.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:34 am to I B Freeman
The Patriot Act is one of the most egregious power grabs in this country's history. Its amazing the Supreme Court allows it. The FISA court is unnecessary too.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:34 am to Napoleon
I dont agree with that. It is not a law. If he had broken the law filing his taxes the IRS can prosecute him.
He does have to reveal all contributions he got and it is illegal to accept foreign contributions.
He does have to reveal all contributions he got and it is illegal to accept foreign contributions.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:37 am to Napoleon
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I’m still shocked that everyone was just fine with him not releasing tax returns.
That’s not a law and until it is, I wouldn’t do it either. The voters obviously don’t care.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:38 am to I B Freeman
Not just no, but hell no.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:38 am to Napoleon
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him not releasing tax returns. you have to release tax returns to run for city council,
WHAT THE ACTUAL frick?
What exactly do Trump’s tax returns have to do with whether the Federal Government Under two separate presidents of both political parties created and operated a secret star chamber outside of public view.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:39 am to I B Freeman
They can have the power...has to be just, though...
Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:41 am to Napoleon
quote:so you want tax returns released but not have a person prove he's a citizen? Funny McTraitor had to prove it but not the liberal immigrant.
I'm still shocked that everyone was just fine with him not releasing tax returns. you have to release tax returns to run for city council, but not President?
Posted on 2/4/18 at 12:22 pm to Napoleon
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opens the door for a future forign paid president.
Bill Clinton was and Hillary would have been.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 12:33 pm to Wednesday
quote:
If the Federal Government wants to listen to my phone calls, read my text messages, or my emails - it needs to get a specialized warrant in a court in fricking public after a probable cause showing. The proceedings MUST be public because the only only only way to challenge the probable cause finding is through the adversarial process.
There has to be something in between what is happening now, and this. A public hearing and open process only means the jig is up to an actual terrorist. Whatever was being planned woll have to be executed by someone else, who isn't under suspicion. You're essentially saying we are only going to catch them after the fact, while the bodies are being counted. Depending on the severity of the attack, that could be a lot of bodies.
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