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re: Do you want Presidents to have the power to spy on political opponents?
Posted on 2/4/18 at 12:44 pm to Napoleon
Posted on 2/4/18 at 12:44 pm to Napoleon
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I'm still shocked that everyone was just fine with him not releasing tax returns. you have to release tax returns to run for city council, but not President?
Zach believes in compromise. I'll take forcing Trump to release his tax returns if we force Obama to release his college transcripts, ACT and SAT scores.
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Posted on 2/4/18 at 12:47 pm to I B Freeman
Neither colluding with foreign governments or federal agents is currently against any laws. Just change the laws and move on to the business of running the government. This isn't rocket science people.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 12:56 pm to I B Freeman
Neo-libs modern Democrats are FOLLOWERS of:
The Father of Political Correctness, the most influential leftist in Academia, Entertainment Industry, Media industry in the U.S. of the Twentieth Century, and continuing today.
Cultural Marxist Herbert Marcuse:
And this is why education in Unis are more about indoctrination than education. Creating generations of like followers.
The bases for discourse isn't logical, or objective because Marcuse, that is, cultural marxism specifically denies logic, objectivity as what is wanted in society.
This is why everything is viewed through political lenses, Dems can do no wrong, and Republicans can do no right.
The Father of Political Correctness, the most influential leftist in Academia, Entertainment Industry, Media industry in the U.S. of the Twentieth Century, and continuing today.
Cultural Marxist Herbert Marcuse:
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Given this situation, I suggested in 'Repressive Tolerance' the practice of discriminating tolerance in an inverse direction, as a means of shifting the balance between Right and Left by restraining the liberty of the Right, thus counteracting the pervasive inequality of freedom
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Liberating tolerance, then, would mean intolerance against movements from the Right and toleration of movements from the Left. As to the scope of this tolerance and intolerance: ... it would extend to the stage of action as well as of discussion and propaganda, of deed as well as of word.
And this is why education in Unis are more about indoctrination than education. Creating generations of like followers.
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neutral, value-free, formal aspects of learning and teaching now become, on their own grounds and in their own right, political: learning to know the facts, the whole truth, and to comprehend it is radical criticism throughout, intellectual subversion. In a world in which the human faculties and needs are arrested or perverted, autonomous thinking leads into a 'perverted world'
The bases for discourse isn't logical, or objective because Marcuse, that is, cultural marxism specifically denies logic, objectivity as what is wanted in society.
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The pre-empting of the mind vitiates impartiality and objectivity: unless the student learns to think in the opposite direction, he will be inclined to place the facts into the predominant framework of values.
This is why everything is viewed through political lenses, Dems can do no wrong, and Republicans can do no right.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 12:59 pm to Napoleon
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I'm still shocked that everyone was just fine with him not releasing tax returns. you have to release tax returns to run for city council, but not President?
I'm shocked ANYONE releases their returns simply to run for office
We have government entities whose job it is to look at returns and determine if they're legal.
I see no pubic purpose to releasing them publicly thereafter.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 1:07 pm to troyt37
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A public hearing and open process only means the jig is up to an actual terrorist.
Search Warrants are obtained ex parte. They are challenged only after proceedings are brought after arrest.
An ex parte warrant, issued after an evidentiary, specific showing of probable cause can still be used to conduct surveillance and prevent crimes. Keeping technology secret, is no justification whatsoever for keeping a judicial power secret.
Star chambers are equally as dangerous to a free society as terrorists.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 1:09 pm to ShortyRob
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I'm shocked ANYONE releases their returns simply to run for office
Leftists only believe that privacy rights allow women to kill their baby, and to allow blackmail by threatening to release information deemed private by the owner of it.
That’s it. They want the return for the second reason.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 1:13 pm to Napoleon
Let Obama release his college transcripts. It was done for Bush. Why not make Obama’s do it?
Posted on 2/4/18 at 1:31 pm to swlaLSUfan
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Russia lover like Trump
Don’t recall Trump presenting a big red restart button to any Russians. Don’t recall Trump telling any Russian he will have more flexibility after election. Don’t recall Trump making fun of anyone who thinks Russia is our greatest geopolitical enemy. So please, WTF are you talking about???
Posted on 2/4/18 at 2:03 pm to I B Freeman
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Do you want Presidents to have the power to spy on political opponents?
Democrats: only when we are in power.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 3:26 pm to swlaLSUfan
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Well when you have a Russia lover like Trump it’s not a bad idea.
You are one stupid motherfricker.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 3:29 pm to I B Freeman
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It was Republicans for the most part that passed the patriot act that created the FISA court.
FISA court was created in 1978 during Carter's administration.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 3:58 pm to airfernando
hey...He at least released the birth certificate.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 4:02 pm to I B Freeman
Trump should tell democrats that if they don’t have a problem with the president spying on political opponents then they won’t care if he does it .
Posted on 2/4/18 at 5:44 pm to AUstar
You are correct and I was wrong.
The Patriot Act, nonetheless, vastly expand the government's power of surveillance.
The Patriot Act, nonetheless, vastly expand the government's power of surveillance.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 5:51 pm to I B Freeman
You make an excellent point.
I will add that there are a significant number of people within the bureaucracy who seem to operate above the law. We’re seen several examples in recent years. Lois Lerner at the IRS; Loretta Lynch meeting with Bill Lanton on the tarmac; James Comey declaring that HRC didn’t commit a crime even though that is the legal duty of a US Attorney to decide; McCabe and whatever he has done; FISA warrants being illegally obtained. The list keeps getting longer.
We all should be alarmed by this.
I will add that there are a significant number of people within the bureaucracy who seem to operate above the law. We’re seen several examples in recent years. Lois Lerner at the IRS; Loretta Lynch meeting with Bill Lanton on the tarmac; James Comey declaring that HRC didn’t commit a crime even though that is the legal duty of a US Attorney to decide; McCabe and whatever he has done; FISA warrants being illegally obtained. The list keeps getting longer.
We all should be alarmed by this.
This post was edited on 2/4/18 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 2/4/18 at 6:05 pm to I B Freeman
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It was Republicans for the most part that passed the patriot act that created the FISA court.
Oh yeah it did. And the 1978 Buick Skylark was made in 2002 also.
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