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re: Spinoff: Why can't Louisiana be more like Texas economically?
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:18 am to OysterPoBoy
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:18 am to OysterPoBoy
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Mexicans
There's starting to be more Mexicans here now. More than people realize.
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:18 am to White Goodman
I don't know if the economic diversity was the original plan for Texas, but it certainly has become a byproduct. Texas was about O&G for a long time, and as their cities grew, they become self-contained states to an extent.
Most of it has to do with the size of the cities and "suburbs." Houston, Sugar Land, and The Woodlands have nearly 2 million more people than all of LA combined. If you took all of the upper middle class folks from LA and let them build their own city, you'd get something similar.
There are also infrastructure issues that are significantly easier to handle in Texas than they are in LA due to population density. The population density of Texas is 103 people per square mile compared to 105 people in LA, but those people are much more heavily concentrated in major cities in Texas.
For example, the Baton Rouge Metropolitan Statistical Area "packs" 800k people into 4,200 square miles. The Greater Austin MSA has 2 million people in 4,300 square miles.
That allows Texas to focus its $1.65T in GDP much more specifically than LA.
Most of it has to do with the size of the cities and "suburbs." Houston, Sugar Land, and The Woodlands have nearly 2 million more people than all of LA combined. If you took all of the upper middle class folks from LA and let them build their own city, you'd get something similar.
There are also infrastructure issues that are significantly easier to handle in Texas than they are in LA due to population density. The population density of Texas is 103 people per square mile compared to 105 people in LA, but those people are much more heavily concentrated in major cities in Texas.
For example, the Baton Rouge Metropolitan Statistical Area "packs" 800k people into 4,200 square miles. The Greater Austin MSA has 2 million people in 4,300 square miles.
That allows Texas to focus its $1.65T in GDP much more specifically than LA.
This post was edited on 12/9/16 at 10:39 am
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:23 am to White Goodman
1. Good
2. Ol'
3. Boy
4. Politics
/thread!
Contrary to popular belief, there is still a FRICK TON of good ol' boy politics still being played to this day. Not to mention the fact that this state is still recovering from the under minded antics of EWE and his cronies!
This state still has a few RINO's that will try to sell shite to a toilet stool at every given opportunity. There's one in a congressional runoff tomorrow........................(and it ain't Higgins......)
I know the man personally (not higgins). Great family man and as a person, generally a good dude. However, as a politician, I've NEVER voted for him and never will vote for him because he is a career politician and has only HIS and his local cronies best interest in mind. I've seen it from the parish level and now the state level. I can PROMISE you he is only in this for himself and his buds!
Sorry for the rant but this is a prime example of why Louisiana is still stuck in the "good ol' boy" days and needs to get the F out of that crap mentality immediately!
2. Ol'
3. Boy
4. Politics
/thread!
Contrary to popular belief, there is still a FRICK TON of good ol' boy politics still being played to this day. Not to mention the fact that this state is still recovering from the under minded antics of EWE and his cronies!
This state still has a few RINO's that will try to sell shite to a toilet stool at every given opportunity. There's one in a congressional runoff tomorrow........................(and it ain't Higgins......)
I know the man personally (not higgins). Great family man and as a person, generally a good dude. However, as a politician, I've NEVER voted for him and never will vote for him because he is a career politician and has only HIS and his local cronies best interest in mind. I've seen it from the parish level and now the state level. I can PROMISE you he is only in this for himself and his buds!
Sorry for the rant but this is a prime example of why Louisiana is still stuck in the "good ol' boy" days and needs to get the F out of that crap mentality immediately!
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:26 am to White Goodman
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Louisiana just has a trashier, less productive populous than Texas.
Populace.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:33 am to White Goodman
quote:We're never going to be like Texas. Texas has 6.5X the population, better demographics, business-friendly economics, no income tax, more land, etc. A better question is why is Louisiana falling behind Alabama and South Carolina (both states with similar population and demographics).
Why can't Louisiana be more like Texas economically?
This post was edited on 12/9/16 at 10:38 am
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:36 am to dabigfella
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The thing with houston is we have them but if you go inner loop river oaks,west u,memorial you dont see them at all. You also dont have boats in driveways in these nice areas. Houston is really good about keeping the good parts good. West U has its own police, River Oaks has the RoPo and there is never any crime in those parts,
that is sort of my point. New Orleans is an old city that has long been developed. The lines have been drawn.
Houston has been able to grow into itself because there is land. If Houston was limited to the 3rd ward, heights, River oaks and downtown, we would have the same issues that New Orleans has. Drive around u of H and there are a ton of nice looking old house that people just white-flighted the frick out of.
There is no way you could have a Bellaire or west U in New Orleans. Just no room.
This post was edited on 12/9/16 at 10:39 am
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:38 am to SlowFlowPro
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a. we have a large, LARGE population of lower culture/class. limited education of the mass of these people means they can't work the higher-end jobs and there are indirect issues like how they make public school systems a bad option (TX has great public schools b/c of tehir ISD systems) b. LA is much more socialist b/c of what this population demands of politicians
Bingo,
It is this combined with our Politicians historically selling us out to benefit themselves. For example, LA does not get back from these resources at the same levels other states do due to the sins of our Pols past.
I could go on a tangent, but I won't, since I am partially to blame due to the fact that I've voted Democrat my entire life up until just a few years ago.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:39 am to Dire Wolf
The planter class/landowner class still rule in Louisiana. They have a lot of influence the middle and lower middle class in this state, consequently they get them to vote against their own best interest.
It's laughable to try and blame black people for the states woes, when black people literally control nothing in Louisiana .
It's laughable to try and blame black people for the states woes, when black people literally control nothing in Louisiana .
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:51 am to 31TIGERS
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Contrary to popular belief, there is still a FRICK TON of good ol' boy politics still being played to this day.
Of course, " corrupt states tended to spend money on construction, highways, and police protection programs"
The Senator cannot let his cousin lose his highway contract.
This post was edited on 12/9/16 at 10:53 am
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:53 am to EZE Tiger Fan
I appreciate that honesty, I do.
Another poster mentioned the political corruption since Reconstruction...there has been political corruption in Louisiana, especially southeast Louisiana, long BEFORE the Civil War.
It's a French thing, the nepotism and all. In one sense it's actually kind of noble, when the population was small, you take care of my son, I'll take care of yours. It's the incompetence of both sons, and their sense of entitlement that ruins it. However we've been doing it for nearly 300 years. It's entrenched.
The other point about the land-owner class is valid too. But this is the way of the WORLD, it's nowhere near exclusive to the state of Louisiana, it's literally anywhere on this planet where large landholders are.
New Orleans was slowly turning the corner in the post-Katrina era, and Mr. Jim Letten was still the U.S. Attorney. Then he was undermined by his own corrupt staff, followed by the Presidential election of 2008, Letten was forced out, and we're back to where we were.
Another poster mentioned the political corruption since Reconstruction...there has been political corruption in Louisiana, especially southeast Louisiana, long BEFORE the Civil War.
It's a French thing, the nepotism and all. In one sense it's actually kind of noble, when the population was small, you take care of my son, I'll take care of yours. It's the incompetence of both sons, and their sense of entitlement that ruins it. However we've been doing it for nearly 300 years. It's entrenched.
The other point about the land-owner class is valid too. But this is the way of the WORLD, it's nowhere near exclusive to the state of Louisiana, it's literally anywhere on this planet where large landholders are.
New Orleans was slowly turning the corner in the post-Katrina era, and Mr. Jim Letten was still the U.S. Attorney. Then he was undermined by his own corrupt staff, followed by the Presidential election of 2008, Letten was forced out, and we're back to where we were.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:56 am to Dire Wolf
what cracks me up with houston is being a lifelong resident, when I was a kid we didn't have central market or any of these organic places so my dad would take us to canino's this grocery store way out in the hood where all these people would bring their fresh produce and sell them out the back of their truck, this was 30 years ago. The neighborhood was complete trash, today that store is still there and in the heights and people are paying big money to be next to canino's. My mind is completely blown at how many nice areas of houston there are nowadays and they're taking over the hoods slowly and kicking people out.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:59 am to White Goodman
Negative culture of loser mentality cultivated by decades of corruption.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 11:02 am to dabigfella
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My mind is completely blown at how many nice areas of houston there are nowadays and they're taking over the hoods slowly and kicking people out.
East side of 288, between 610 and 59, is the next target area for this due to med center growth. You're already seeing new large (vertical) houses pop up there in the middle of very suspect neighborhoods. The cycle is interesting
This post was edited on 12/9/16 at 11:04 am
Posted on 12/9/16 at 11:18 am to dabigfella
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what cracks me up with houston is being a lifelong resident, when I was a kid we didn't have central market or any of these organic places so my dad would take us to canino's this grocery store way out in the hood where all these people would bring their fresh produce and sell them out the back of their truck, this was 30 years ago. The neighborhood was complete trash, today that store is still there and in the heights and people are paying big money to be next to canino's. My mind is completely blown at how many nice areas of houston there are nowadays and they're taking over the hoods slowly and kicking people out.
I just moved back after an 8-year long stint in Baton Rouge and North LA between school and work. It was incredible how much changed every time I would come back. Even that central market is adding on.
I remember when Rice and Randles were high class back in the day. Now HEB is about to tear down the last crappy one off by my parents and build a mega one in Bellaire.
Houston's holds no romance over old things outside of the Dome. It is one of the reasons I think people are turned off by Houston and think there is no culture here.
The other thing that blows me away is how great the food scene has gotten in Houston. So many Asian places. It is a bit overwhelming.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 11:24 am to BIGDAB
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The planter class/landowner class still rule in Louisiana. They have a lot of influence the middle and lower middle class in this state, consequently they get them to vote against their own best interest.
There's no impetus for change. Lower class/even middle class LA folk don't know what functioning cities are like, so they accept mediocrity and shite because "at least we have gumbo and Mardi Gras".
Posted on 12/9/16 at 11:28 am to White Goodman
Texas did a better job of negotiating the money they get from the oil and gas resources in their state, the feds get a bigger chunk of the LA money.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 11:29 am to MSMHater
is that where the new UT campus is? LOL cracks me up UT doesnt want Houston in the Big 12 but then they wanna open a new mega campus in Houston. I personally own a couple parcels of land in the 5th ward literally minutes from downtown, I hope a developer targets it next bc its the only part inside the loop left where you can buy large 1 acre parcels of commercial land for less than $1M
also im a little mesmerized at how West U is so overpriced these days relative to other nice areas. 5000 sq ft lots are selling for $650-700k which is wild bc thats $6M/acre while an acre is still $2M or so in memorial which I personally think is nicer anyways. Im shocked West U is commanding such premiums for such small lots, Im really contemplating selling my home in the coming months bc they're getting wild prices here still.
also im a little mesmerized at how West U is so overpriced these days relative to other nice areas. 5000 sq ft lots are selling for $650-700k which is wild bc thats $6M/acre while an acre is still $2M or so in memorial which I personally think is nicer anyways. Im shocked West U is commanding such premiums for such small lots, Im really contemplating selling my home in the coming months bc they're getting wild prices here still.
This post was edited on 12/9/16 at 11:35 am
Posted on 12/9/16 at 12:33 pm to ithad2bme
All of this is true.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 12:43 pm to knight_ryder
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Lol I went to an inner-city high school. Very urban. Black people from Louisiana are the worst
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And I'm black.
WHEW
Posted on 12/9/16 at 12:47 pm to dabigfella
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is that where the new UT campus is?
No, that is going just south of 610 on Buffalo speedway near holmes road. Right by Wildcat
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