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re: Failure of minority cultures have made urban dwelling unfair to whites.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 12:37 am to cave canem
Posted on 12/9/16 at 12:37 am to cave canem
quote:First of all, he didn't attribute anything about the policy to Reagan's race. BUT you just agreed with his comments about LBJ's policy, yet you didn't mention his race.
Whats the matter, just could not resist the it's whitey's fault one more time?
quote:No, but it doesn't just impact minorities either. It's a costly and ineffective policy that has directly led to ridiculously high incarceration rates for non-violent crimes, which we have to pay for.
Whats the matter, just could not resist the it's whitey's fault one more time? Reagan forced them into selling drugs and committing crimes?
Then, even if they are the ones responsible for their actions, it often negatively impacts their family (e.g., single-family incomes). Again, the person is responsible, but those that do not share that responsibility suffer too. So the severity of punishments supports neither retribution nor the utilitarian basis of punishment.
In addition, given the non-violent--even economically understandable--nature of their offenses, would likely make them more capable of "rehabilitation." Yet, because of their criminal history, the jobs that a rehabilitated person could reasonably fulfill, are less likely to be available.
The problem with your argument is not that people shouldn't be held responsible for their actions. The problem is responsibility doesn't some how justify artificially severe consequences that are costly, ineffective, and often present distal detriments. They may have initially created the problem, but that doesn't give the government a pass if they exacerbate it.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 12:47 am to kingbob
quote:I'm not disagreeing with this; I'm saying that something(s) caused the broken home IN ADDITION to the terrible policies that you mentioned, which I agree with, like poor self control, poor mental health, and lower ability.
Being raised in a broken home is the single most important factor defining educational success, lifetime income, household income, and criminality.
In other words, the "broken home" itself is an indicator of the problem, both those that are inherent to the individuals themselves and the poor polices of the government. What I'm saying is that, it's those problems that are greatly contributing to the outcome, irrespective of the single-player, out of wedlock home itself, although that assuredly does play a role. I just think it's a mediator between the other factors and the poor outcomes.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 1:25 am to Strannix
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Then I would imagine Africa is a shining beacon of Black civilization?
I am not going to dispute the point you are making for your argument. However, please keep in mind that all countries in Africa are not created equal (similar to West Europe or the Balkan States)
Some of the early African tribes were actually quite advanced, developing their own tools, languages, housing and city/settlement structure.
Even today, some of African countries would be very welcoming, like Nigeria or Congo.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 3:07 am to volod
There is one company that is allowed by law to sell flyswatters in those two countries, and it is owned by a white motherfricker. True story.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 3:24 am to mulletproof
He also has not spent any time in either if his primary description of those two shitholes is "welcoming".
Posted on 12/9/16 at 5:29 am to Roger Klarvin
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quote: It's only racist if you can give me one black area that's truly a great place to live? Stockbridge, Georgia
71% White. A town largely built on white flight.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 5:57 am to Strannix
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have to use their capital and resources to build new communities to exist in a safe environment.
You hit the nail on the head
Posted on 12/9/16 at 8:11 am to Dawgfanman
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71% White. A town largely built on white flight.
57% black according to the 2010 census, with black residents making on average 10% more than the white residents. Crime rate actually lower than comparibly wealthy majority white towns.
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