re: AD forces Brian Kelly to fire defensive coordinator Brian VanGorder

That's what I'm thinking

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And yet he will still get another job. Crazy how people just fail from job to job.

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It's amazing the job security football has.

It's like no one wants to search for talent...that would take too much time and apparently there's some union that colleges first have to look at other college coaches before high school.

So getting to college is a huge coup - then you have a safety net...and of course college to Pros...that's like guaranteed job forever...they just recycle each other in their little club...once and awhile they will poach a college guy - but only if he has NFL experience. Getting fired in football is just an invitation to another immediate job.

Has there ever been a known coach who was fired who couldn't get another job? I can only think of Woody Hayes...punched a player...And Tyrone Wittingham - well, he sucked so bad...

But alas...he never lost a paycheck...Willingham currently serves as a member of the College Football Playoff selection committee and President of AFCA. These guys never go away. You are always with a job. You can suck so bad...and then be elected to pick the teams for the playoffs.

Coaching Football is the grossest incestuous unfair nepotism un-American lack of free market closed door fraternity business in America. But once you gain entrance, like the Masons, you are set for life. You are their brother.

Because it's always somebody's son, somebody's brother. Sabans, Kiffins, Ryans, Wade Phillips, Schottenheimers, Shulas, Moras, Nolans, Bowdens, Shannahans, etc.

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Wouldn't it be pretty ridiculous for them to fire Kelly this year? I mean after several tries they finally found someone who brought them back to relevance. Firing for a four loss season would seem extreme but what do I know

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No. Why would it?

We know what we have. It isn't good enough. It's that simple. If we have to cycle through six coaches in thirteen years ala Alabama, then so be it.

He's a mediocre to above-average coach that is made to look a little better because of three dreadful predecessors. He's never winning a national title. Hell, I'd be surprised if he even was ever able to win a major bowl game or even make the playoffs even if he were to stay five more years.

They should fire the guy responsible for killing the kid in the tower on a windy day

That gif looks like he could suit up a play still.

Only one way to build a safe video towe brick by brick

ND should hire Cam Cameron to replace VanGorder. He's proven he can consistently shut down really talented offenses.

And a last second play from beating FSU on the road, a last second play from beating Clemson, a last second play from beating a terrible Northwestern team two years ago, a last second play from beating Texas. Eventually close but no cigar doesn't cut it anymore.

Maybe I'm young, but Notre Dame doesn't feel like a part of college football to me. I have always sensed they're on "the outside looking in" and not really a part of the meat and potatoes or a true player in the game... More of an interesting sidebar that you pay attention to.

It obviously has a lot to do with their independent status in football, but I also think it has to do with a brAnd that just isn't as sexy anymore as other brands have gotten sexy and more national TV attention directed their way that was primarily almost completely monopolized by ND in the old days. When TV/digital wasn't as prevalent, they owned the marketplace.... Now that it is, they not only don't own the marketplace, they aren't even the centerpiece of the market anymore.

Blast me if you want, but I think Notre Dame as a brand in the context of football is in the same category as Nebraska, or maybe some of the Ivy League schools... Great pageantry great tradition, great history, proud fans, but the game and all the other programs have passed them by.

Just my 2 cents. I would be shocked if Notre Dame wins a national title in my lifetime, because the brand trend I speak of has no chance of reversing course IMO. Maybe I'm wrong, and I'm sure I'm not the first person to ever say it, but the "peak" of the Notre Dame brand and glory days have long passed and it will always be a program with a proud past and meh present.