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If we change gun control, how do we change it?
Posted on 10/2/15 at 9:45 am
Posted on 10/2/15 at 9:45 am
What would you change about gun control? Also, if you're fine with the gun control laws right now, let your voice be heard! What's your opinions on this?
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 9:47 am to John88
The genie is out of the bottle, no controlling it now. The only option we've got is to develop cheap and fashionable Kevlar.
Posted on 10/2/15 at 9:47 am to John88
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What would you change about gun control?
Absolutely nothing.
Posted on 10/2/15 at 9:47 am to John88
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What would you change about gun control? Also, if you're fine with the gun control laws right now, let your voice be heard! What's your opinions on this?
Everyone, come have your say, John88 is listening
Posted on 10/2/15 at 9:47 am to John88
My opinion is if everyone had a gun there would be a whole lot less crime.
Posted on 10/2/15 at 9:48 am to heypaul
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My opinion is if everyone had a gun there would be a whole lot less crime.
There's a reason these jerkoffs always target gun free zones...
Posted on 10/2/15 at 9:50 am to terd ferguson
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There's a reason these jerkoffs always target gun free zones...
Exactly
Posted on 10/2/15 at 9:51 am to John88
Here's how I would change the gun issues:
End the war on drugs, end the wars accross the world, use the money we waste on war budgets to reinvest heavily in both education and travel infrastructure.
Open an avenue for trade schools and non college jobs so that people can start there then send their kids to school starting an end to the poverty cycle.
Increase the penalties for abusing social welfare, overhaul the welfare state, and increase oversight of those on government assistance for an extended period of time.
End the war on drugs, end the wars accross the world, use the money we waste on war budgets to reinvest heavily in both education and travel infrastructure.
Open an avenue for trade schools and non college jobs so that people can start there then send their kids to school starting an end to the poverty cycle.
Increase the penalties for abusing social welfare, overhaul the welfare state, and increase oversight of those on government assistance for an extended period of time.
Posted on 10/2/15 at 9:53 am to heypaul
Breesus is on the right track.
I wouldn't mind saying background checks for every purchase except family heirlooms. Hell even do that on second though, but the condition is that they will always be free with no application fee or any other bullshite from any licensed FFL. Charging any fees for such checks will result in the loss of the FFL.
The biggest thing we need to do is get our fricking mental health system under control. There was plenty of indicators on a lot of these people that just didn't get caught.
I wouldn't mind saying background checks for every purchase except family heirlooms. Hell even do that on second though, but the condition is that they will always be free with no application fee or any other bullshite from any licensed FFL. Charging any fees for such checks will result in the loss of the FFL.
The biggest thing we need to do is get our fricking mental health system under control. There was plenty of indicators on a lot of these people that just didn't get caught.
This post was edited on 10/2/15 at 9:54 am
Posted on 10/2/15 at 9:53 am to Breesus
And invest the money saved into mental help and remove the stigma of people needing mental help.
Also, people need to be more aware of their friends, family and peers mental state and try and spot the signs before the terrible events occur.
The guns are such a small part
Also, people need to be more aware of their friends, family and peers mental state and try and spot the signs before the terrible events occur.
The guns are such a small part
This post was edited on 10/2/15 at 10:04 am
Posted on 10/2/15 at 9:53 am to John88
Tougher gun control laws will make the violent criminals think twice before they obtain another weapon while they're out on probation, IMO.
Posted on 10/2/15 at 9:53 am to Breesus
Get a job, hippie.
Posted on 10/2/15 at 9:55 am to LucasP
I have a job. And an education.
Posted on 10/2/15 at 9:56 am to John88
Here's the problem. And my issue with the POTUS: He doesn't wait to see what factors caused to this happening before harping on his cause. In half of these cases, there is no red flag that would prevent these guys from acquiring weapons even under the condescendingly named "common sense legislation". So given that fact, its obvious the POTUS' eye is on the prize of gun restrictions for the sake of gun restrictions, and will use whatever example he can to tug at our heart strings until he or his successors get it.
So the logical conclusion is that he either wants all guns removed from personal possession (good luck with that) or he will put something so overbearing in place such as a full mental screening for the purpose of buying a gun. Then you have that issue of the pesky 2nd amendment (the one so at the front of our forefathers minds they put it right after the freedom of speech), and you have a scenario where doctors hired by people with an agenda deciding whether you deserve your 2nd amendment right.
I don't know what the optimal answer is but I am pretty much in the middle of this and don't trust the President's intentions.
So the logical conclusion is that he either wants all guns removed from personal possession (good luck with that) or he will put something so overbearing in place such as a full mental screening for the purpose of buying a gun. Then you have that issue of the pesky 2nd amendment (the one so at the front of our forefathers minds they put it right after the freedom of speech), and you have a scenario where doctors hired by people with an agenda deciding whether you deserve your 2nd amendment right.
I don't know what the optimal answer is but I am pretty much in the middle of this and don't trust the President's intentions.
Posted on 10/2/15 at 9:56 am to LucasP
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The only option we've got is to develop cheap and fashionable Kevlar.
Seriously. That is the next sort of open frontier to new markets...play on people's fear of security.
Posted on 10/2/15 at 9:57 am to LucasP
How to change gun control? Hmmm, maybe make sure everyone is armed. If you know you're going to catch return fire from every other person around you, you'll probably be pretty careful about engaging in a conflict with a weapon.
And if someone would have returned fire at Mr.Mercer, he probably wouldn't have been so successful.
And if someone would have returned fire at Mr.Mercer, he probably wouldn't have been so successful.
Posted on 10/2/15 at 9:57 am to John88
The problem with all these mass-shootings doesn't lie with guns, the law, or even mental health.
The problem is that we've created several generations of coddled little babies who don't know how to deal with adversity. They are taught that life is "fair" and that there is no such thing as winning or losing (everyone gets a trophy). Make a B in a class? Mommy and Daddy will raise hell until the teacher raises it to an A. They never have to learn from failure and deal with its impact.
Then when they enter the real world and it kicks them in the nuts, they are not equipped to deal with it, so they lash out in irrational ways.
To answer your question...there is no change needed to gun control, unless we simply do away with control altogether. Guns aren't the problem. Pussies are the problem.
The problem is that we've created several generations of coddled little babies who don't know how to deal with adversity. They are taught that life is "fair" and that there is no such thing as winning or losing (everyone gets a trophy). Make a B in a class? Mommy and Daddy will raise hell until the teacher raises it to an A. They never have to learn from failure and deal with its impact.
Then when they enter the real world and it kicks them in the nuts, they are not equipped to deal with it, so they lash out in irrational ways.
To answer your question...there is no change needed to gun control, unless we simply do away with control altogether. Guns aren't the problem. Pussies are the problem.
This post was edited on 10/2/15 at 9:59 am
Posted on 10/2/15 at 9:57 am to Breesus
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education
Code word for commie fig.
Posted on 10/2/15 at 9:59 am to Dam Guide
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The biggest thing we need to do is get our fricking mental health system under control. There was plenty of indicators on a lot of these people that just didn't get caught.
i work in mental health... and this is the answer. Mental health is the first thing in budget cuts yearly in our state
Posted on 10/2/15 at 10:00 am to Skillet
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Tougher gun control laws will make the violent criminals think twice
weak troll. mass shootings typically done by mentally ill idiots, not people with violent crime records.
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