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re: Cameron on 104.5 this morning

Posted on 8/4/15 at 11:46 am to
Posted by Salviati
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 11:46 am to
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Do you expect QBs to play better after their first two seasons?

He doesn't even have to answer that question.

Everyone knows what his answer is.

Of course QBs get better as they get years of experience.
Posted by sjmabry
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 11:46 am to
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tRant collectively lost its shite
All day, every day.
Posted by The Egg
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 11:47 am to
this is more fun than the actual season itself
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 11:47 am to
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what in the world is going on here


Cam didn't talk enough about Harris in an interview so tRant is melting
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 11:48 am to
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Well he seems rather poor at using the information at his disposal every offseason and coming up with an offense commensurate with a Top 10 program


do you see how contradictory this statement is?
Posted by chilge1
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 11:53 am to
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His is the one who will do less, make the least mistakes, be the least creative, and conform to the party line. Ours is the one who is a leader, puts the team on his back, creatively drives the offense, takes some chances, makes some mistakes.


Here's the irony... Miles started Jennings to open the season against Wisconsin because he had been in the program for a year and 8 months.. whereas Brandon Harris has been in the program for 8 months, and as we now know, was not fully dedicated to his craft.

We came out of the gate using Cameron's 2013 offense, and other than some nice passes to Dural, we couldn't do jack shite. Then Jennings shite the bed against NMST and Les started Harris against Auburn despite Cameron's advice to the contrary... and he shite the bed.

After that game, when we realized neither QB could run the offense we wanted to run, we went into a shell and ran the ball 50 times a game with minimal passing. In THAT SCENARIO, you ABSOLUTELY want the guy who makes the least mistakes and conforms to the party line because there is little to no room to compensate for mistakes.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 11:54 am to
No, because it's not. The context was that a Top 10 program is the baseline expectation based on resources and the condition it was in when he took over.
This post was edited on 8/4/15 at 11:57 am
Posted by ipodking
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 11:55 am to
This thread tho
Posted by chilge1
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 11:55 am to
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sitting him another year and waiting for year 3 is silly. If he's the real deal, he'll only be here for 3 years anyway. sitting him another year and waiting for year 3 is silly. If he's the real deal, he'll only be here for 3 years anyway.


Throwing Franks out there as a redshirt freshman for Harris's senior year is a brilliant strategy.. one that couldn't possibly backfire in any possible way.
Posted by chilge1
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 11:58 am to
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The context was that it's a Top 10 program is the baseline expectation based on resources and the condition it was in when he took over.


Alright, let's talk about resources... in our typical recruiting grounds, how many Top 10 high school QBs have been produced in the last 10 years?
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5582 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 12:01 pm to
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Well he seems rather poor at using the information at his disposal every offseason and coming up with an offense commensurate with a Top 10 program and Top 5ish salary. Deferring to him because he's the head coach gets you nowhere, because you can say that for any shortcoming or situation with poor performance.

"Well, I think Curley Hallman just might know a thing or two more about coaching a football team and analyzing game film than you do pal!"
Because Hallman and Miles have similar records . . .
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 12:05 pm to
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this is more fun than the actual season itself

i think i'm allowed to post in the offseason on the rant but not during the actual season
Posted by FightinTiga
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 12:13 pm to
Really? Mett was better than JJ and he didn't start
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 12:17 pm to
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what in the world is going on here


premature e-meltification
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 12:18 pm to
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I honestly don't care who the starter is as long as he's better than what we had last season!


One has to ask the obvious, "Is it possible we could be any worse at QB than last year?"

of course they will be better or improved this year, but what does that mean? We go from 100th in the nation in passing to 90th? Not nearly good enough for an Elite program

I am mr Positiger about Tiger football, but goodness our QB play was just horrible last year and has been below average for many years. 4 years of JJ and JL, we just can't go back to that crap. 1 year with Jennings was just awful. That's 5 years out of Ten, Miles has failed to provide Tiger fans a good or decent QB.

I am sick of ugly offense. The rest of the SEC may respect LSU as a team as they should, but at QB, people kind of giggle.

Raise your expectations!
This post was edited on 8/4/15 at 12:19 pm
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28152 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 12:18 pm to
Is that what I was saying, or was I just using an extreme to make a point?
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 12:19 pm to
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Really? Mett was better than JJ and he didn't start


do you understand why?
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5582 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 12:21 pm to
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Really? Mett was better than JJ and he didn't start
Mett was better in 2011?

Mett in 2012 did not have better stats than Jefferson or Lee in 2011.


SEC Regular Season Games
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18163 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 12:21 pm to
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Throwing Franks out there as a redshirt freshman for Harris's senior year is a brilliant strategy.. one that couldn't possibly backfire in any possible way.


Playing the best guy is a brilliant strategy.
Posted by amiznit
Missouri City
Member since Apr 2005
1850 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 12:22 pm to
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Here's the irony... Miles started Jennings to open the season against Wisconsin because he had been in the program for a year and 8 months.. whereas Brandon Harris has been in the program for 8 months, and as we now know, was not fully dedicated to his craft.

We came out of the gate using Cameron's 2013 offense, and other than some nice passes to Dural, we couldn't do jack shite. Then Jennings shite the bed against NMST and Les started Harris against Auburn despite Cameron's advice to the contrary... and he shite the bed.

After that game, when we realized neither QB could run the offense we wanted to run, we went into a shell and ran the ball 50 times a game with minimal passing. In THAT SCENARIO, you ABSOLUTELY want the guy who makes the least mistakes and conforms to the party line because there is little to no room to compensate for mistakes.


People don't understand this. They think the offense that we ended the season with was the same that we started the season with and intended to run throughout the season. It was not. The offense we ended the season with was born out of necessity to salvage the season. That offense WAS the adjustment.

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