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re: Cameron on 104.5 this morning

Posted on 8/4/15 at 11:07 am to
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 8/4/15 at 11:07 am to
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He was a composite 3*...


Does that offer list look 2 or 3* to you? Come on man, don't be intellectually dishonest.

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right

We still have Harris and Jennings for at least 2 more years, then we will have Franks



Why not recruit another QB to come in and compete since AJ has been proven ineffective and Harris can't supplant him? That way we're not force to play Franks when he's young.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 11:07 am to
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not miserable, just calling it like I see it. The rest of the SEC sees it too. LSU fans right now are the ostrich with it's head in the sand.


yeah...i guess that's why we're top 15 in every preseason poll that's come out and even top 10 in many



but you're right...i'm sure all those people in Vegas just have their head in the sand
This post was edited on 8/4/15 at 11:08 am
Posted by Moustache
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Member since May 2008
21556 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 11:09 am to
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He's not a very physically gifted guy. AJ is a terrible quarterback and has no business starting for an upper tier SEC school.


THis. His running instincts are below average and not really teachable. He's decently fast, but not really much more than average. Can't teach that.

His arm strength is pretty weak for a D1 prospect. Not sure how the staff missed that in evaluating him. Can't teach that.

The only thing he can improve on is reading the defenses and his accuracy, which are his two most glaring weaknesses at this point in his career. People act like fans are ridiculous for not expecting much improvement.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12234 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 11:11 am to
Unless you buy into the conspiracy theories about not playing our best QB, by this time you have to entertain the prospect that Harris has been overrated.
we've seen Jennings and it ain't pretty...
Posted by broadcaster
Maurepas
Member since Sep 2013
2685 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 11:11 am to
I really think some of you need to go back and listen to the interview. The guys asked him with the suspension of Jennings if Harriss has the leg up coming out of summer camp. Cam told them that they answered their question, then laughed and told them they were good at what they did. Some of you just hear what you want to hear
This post was edited on 8/4/15 at 11:12 am
Posted by GeauxToBed
Covington, LA
Member since Mar 2015
6113 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 11:11 am to
Harris will be 'the guy' this year. Put down the revolver everyone...
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83571 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 11:11 am to
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Does that offer list look 2 or 3* to you? Come on man, don't be intellectually dishonest.


I'm not the one choosing to pick the only service that rated him as a 2* as my source of rating

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Harris can't supplant him?


We don't know if Harris can't supplant him yet.

And if y'all don't think that Harris is getting a fair shot, do you think a true freshman will come in a get a fair shot against AJ? Come on...be consistent.

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That way we're not force to play Franks when he's young.


If everything works out Franks won't have to play until his 2nd or 3rd year

Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 11:12 am to
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Miles does not take blame, he avoids discussioning and becomes condescending when questioned. Miles treats LSU fans/supporter like ignorant children andheabove their questioning. Miles has never fessed up to 1/9. If Miles can escape judgement from the 1/9 debacle, he feels bullet proof and need not lower himself to accountability for any of his poor decisions.




oh man
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158760 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 11:14 am to
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bilj and i agree on something

i am shocked


I did not realize we differed in opinions so often
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21556 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 11:14 am to
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I'm not the one choosing to pick the only service that rated him as a 2* as my source of rating


You don't understand how ratings work do you? He's a 2 star by EVERY service except 247 all season long, but as soon as LSU offers he's bumped to a 3. Seems legit.

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f everything works out Franks won't have to play until his 2nd or 3rd year


it'd be really nice to RS franks and not let him play until his 3rd season. Another highly ranked QB would've at least added depth and increased competition. It can only be a good thing.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127405 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 11:14 am to
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could that have been a mistake and he was actually referring to Harris?

I was certain that he was just making a general statement there about QB development.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 11:15 am to
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I really think some of you need to go back and listen to the interview. The guys asked him with the suspension of Jennings if Harriss has the leg up coming out of summer camp. Cam told them that they answered their question, then laughed and told them they were good at what they did. Some of you just hear what you want to hear


i guarantee 99% of the people in this thread didn't even listen to the interview.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 11:16 am to
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why didn't we bring in any major recruit in the 2015 class at QB?


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Why not bring in another QB in 2015 class? Now, we are VERY thin at QB. It makes absolutely no sense.


Anthony Jennings
Brandon Harris
Justin McMillan
Danny Etling
Feleipe Franks


Thin?
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5532 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 11:16 am to
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Point went right over your head.
No.


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WE have no depth at LB or DL for some reason.
We have sufficient depth to make a title run.


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We have the returning worst SEC QB.
Who had the worst returning QB before fall camp in 2011?


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IN order for AJ to make it to a title game, we need to magically find a Tyrann MAthieu, 2 1st rd CBs.
Yeah, I have no idea where LSU will get any good CBs or safeties.


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Oh, and a Kevin Steele Defense suddenly needs to not look like a Kevin Steele defense.
Please describe in detail exactly how a Steele defense looks with LSU talent and Orgeron coaching?
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158760 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 11:17 am to
The A&M game was probably about AJ's ceiling and that performance was 12/21 107 yds 1 TD 1 INT

On his best days, he's an average game manager.
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
83571 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 11:18 am to
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You don't understand how ratings work do you? He's a 2 star by EVERY service except 247 all season long, but as soon as LSU offers he's bumped to a 3. Seems legit


I know how a composite rankings work...

and the same thing happened for Mo Claiborne as well, just FTR

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It can only be a good thing.


No argument there. But highly ranked QBs don't just fall off trees and they also look at depth closely. A highly ranked QB might look at LSU and see that Harris and AJ were freshmen and sophmores, respectively, and thought they might not get a chance to play for a long time

not to mention if LSU took a highly ranked QB last year, Franks might not be committed right now
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
83571 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 11:18 am to
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The A&M game was probably about AJ's ceiling and that performance was 12/21 107 yds 1 TD 1 INT


need to add his running stats as well, if we are being fair
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 11:19 am to
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not miserable, just calling it like I see it


In 2011 JJ:

61%...7.4 yds/A...6tds....2 ints...RAT.=140

In 2010:

56%...6.8yds/a...7tds...10 ints...RAT...115

You might want to see bout having your eyes checked.

Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28117 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 11:20 am to
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Jennings was the worst QB in the conference last year.


You don't think Miles and Cameron know that?



Not sure they do. And if they do know that, does it really matter if they continue to play Jennings while failing to develop him and an offense suitable for him?
This post was edited on 8/4/15 at 11:21 am
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 11:22 am to
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The A&M game was probably about AJ's ceiling and that performance was 12/21 107 yds 1 TD 1 INT

On his best days, he's an average game manager.


I'll take a QB that throws for 1400 and rushes for 1500 for the season any time.
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