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re: Ranking the Top 10 LSU Shortstops since 1990

Posted on 6/2/15 at 2:00 pm to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/2/15 at 2:00 pm to
Red line big barrel was my bat man Im not saying improvements weren't made, but I have a hard time believing a significant huge change happened in 1 year. Improvements are a gradual steady thing
Posted by bma28
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 6/2/15 at 2:00 pm to
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it definitely did.


I played from 94-97 and don't remember a bat change. We always swung -4 length to weight ratio with 2 3/4"(I think maybe they were 2 5/8") barrels. LSU swung those Gold w/Red Lettered Easton Bats during those times.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 6/2/15 at 2:02 pm to
i dont know the specific engineering behind it, but im pretty sure the metals were changed. Bigger trampoline effect.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 6/2/15 at 2:03 pm to
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LSU swung those Gold w/Red Lettered Easton Bats during those times.


Good memory!
This post was edited on 6/2/15 at 2:04 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278798 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 2:03 pm to
i think they were -5 actually. i want to 96 was the start of the change. Pretty sure the Redline's were in by 1997

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In May 1997, Easton launched "Redline," its premier line of baseball and softball bats using Ashurst's Al-Sc alloys. Redline bats have already made their mark, having been used by the 1997 College World Series Champion LSU baseball team and for the game-winning hit at the recent Little League World Series. Consumer response has also been tremendous, with Redline baseball, softball, and slo-pitch bats. In June 1997, Easton introduced its line of "Redline" Little League bats.
This post was edited on 6/2/15 at 2:05 pm
Posted by bma28
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
240 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 2:05 pm to
"Good memory!"

Too bad it only works for useless bits of information!

That is the bat I remember those guys bashing our brains in with.
This post was edited on 6/2/15 at 2:07 pm
Posted by LSUTygerFan
Homerun Village
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 6/2/15 at 2:05 pm to
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This thread is a shite show


here's my "shocked" face.

Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73163 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 2:09 pm to
the grey redlines were the hottest bats around

to those saying the bats didn't change much, lol
Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
11416 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 2:11 pm to
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Incorrect. The juiced bat era started later on in the 90's. Guys like Walker and Johnson were before the juiced bat era.


You don't understand the bat situation. When Russ played, they were not required to use -3 drop bats, nor was BBCOR in play.
This post was edited on 6/2/15 at 2:27 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95951 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 3:24 pm to
So eddie furniss in 1996 used the old gold bat and hit 26 homers. Then in 1997 he hit 17 and 98 he hit 28. I dont think the bats significantly changed.

Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 3:28 pm to
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he was on the team. hardly the starter



That's true, but he had the best arm and range of any shortstop at LSU, save Bregman.

Another poster is misinformed saying Jason Williams was a 3B. While he was, he was your starting short stop in the 1996 CWS and prior. Nathan Dunn moved to 3rd.

P.S., this list is lame...just saying. When you title "Shortstop" in the post, people will assume defense is part of the package.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 3:29 pm to
Also, Blake Gill should NOT be on that list. That's a slap in the face to Josh Dalton, who is not on the list, either.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278798 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 3:30 pm to
my memory isnt good as i get older, but im pretty sure Furniss actually never changed bats


HR's by team

1995: 81
1996: 131
1997: 188
1998: 157
This post was edited on 6/2/15 at 3:34 pm
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 3:31 pm to
blake gill?
Posted by LSUTygerFan
Homerun Village
Member since Jun 2008
33232 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 3:36 pm to
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blake gill


had a shot at 2 grand slams in the same inning. The first one banged off of the intimidator. Pretty sure the second at bat that inning with the bases loaded was a popup.
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 3:47 pm to
Bregman is the best fielding Shortstop ever at LSU; slightly better than Nola IMO. When you consider the 5 tools as a whole, I'd rate Bregman number one, slightly ahead of Russ, Nola and Hill. Larson's offensive stats were incredible but that was certainly due in part to the bats and some of the muscle stimulants that are no longer allowed.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95951 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 3:51 pm to
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but im pretty sure Furniss actually never changed bats
So I would say that helps my argument a pretty good bit. If there was an extreme change in the bats, why the hell would a player not change?
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6397 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 3:52 pm to
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its interesting that Theriot probably had the longest/best pro career


If you're talking MLB SS career, then yes. But Aaron Hill has undoubtedly had the better career, albeit at 2B.
Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
11416 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 3:55 pm to
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So eddie furniss in 1996 used the old gold bat and hit 26 homers. Then in 1997 he hit 17 and 98 he hit 28. I dont think the bats significantly changed.


agree 100%. The post I was originally replying to suggested that Russ Johnson achieved his numbers "pre-juiced bat" era. My point is that all bats were much livelier before the mandatory -3 drop and bbcor were implemented.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95951 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 3:57 pm to
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agree 100%. The post I was originally replying to suggested that Russ Johnson achieved his numbers "pre-juiced bat" era. My point is that all bats were much livelier before the mandatory -3 drop and bbcor were implemented.
I agree with you. But some in here thing the redline bats were significantly enhanced. I think they were improved but not nearly as big a deal as some are making it. Not even all players used the things for God's sake
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