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re: Book Board: Mistborn or Dark Tower
Posted on 9/4/14 at 6:14 pm to nino2469
Posted on 9/4/14 at 6:14 pm to nino2469
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I'm about 1/2 way through the way of the kings and still don't know what the plot is. Is there a big baddy or is this more of a game of thrones type series where no real bad guy just bunch of characters and their stories?
There is definetly a "big baddy" coming (desolation/Odium), but there are still several different underground and political factions working towards their own interest. Though, figuring out what those interest are for all parties is still difficult at this point.
I just finished Words of Radiance and, trust me, the story is starting to come together very nicely. I thoroughly enjoyed it, and the climax was excellent. It was better than The Way of Kings, but you have to get through Kings to understand everything.
With a 10 book series, I would expect the first few books to be alot of setup and character development. I was actually quite sad to realize WOR was just released this year. Now I'm waiting until 2015-2016 for both Sanderson and Martin
This post was edited on 9/4/14 at 6:18 pm
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Posted on 9/4/14 at 6:26 pm to MSMHater
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Now I'm waiting until 2026 for Martin
FIFY
That fatass will pull a Robert Jordan on us and die, leaving the book to far inferior writers.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 6:27 pm to LeonPhelps
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That fatass will pull a Robert Jordan on us and die, leaving the book to far inferior writers
This
is me suspecting you are right!! Dude's just a cheeseburger away from disaster.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 3:30 pm to Cockopotamus
Dark Tower for sure but its a long series!
Posted on 9/5/14 at 3:49 pm to Cockopotamus
I'd start with the Mistborn series, read it all the way through and then check out The Alloy of Law when you're done. 4 books total, which is all you should read of the Dark Tower series.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 3:52 pm to MSMHater
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That fatass will pull a Robert Jordan on us and die, leaving the book to far inferior writers
This is me suspecting you are right!!
Dude's just a cheeseburger away from disaster.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 10:12 pm to CockHolliday
Just finished the Mistborn trilogy.
Holy Crap, that was pretty epic. A good tale from beginning to end with a lot of foreshadowing. I really enjoyed it a lot. I can't wait to re-read it in a few years.
Holy Crap, that was pretty epic. A good tale from beginning to end with a lot of foreshadowing. I really enjoyed it a lot. I can't wait to re-read it in a few years.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 10:19 pm to Napoleon
Dark Tower was real close to signing hbo deal and could easily have been experiencing game of thrones type popularity. Missed opportunity there. Have to check out Mistborn.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 2:42 pm to Napoleon
i keep hearing more and more about mistborn. what else would yall compare it to? is it easy to read or a bit to get through? I found ASOIAF extremely taxing to read and keep my attention. Martin just rambles and rambles about irrelevant things for too long.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 3:12 pm to BlacknGold
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Martin just rambles and rambles about irrelevant things for too long.
The only time I would agree with this is when he writes about food or clothing
Posted on 9/22/14 at 3:35 pm to BlacknGold
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i keep hearing more and more about mistborn. what else would yall compare it to? is it easy to read or a bit to get through? I found ASOIAF extremely taxing to read and keep my attention. Martin just rambles and rambles about irrelevant things for too long.
Definitely pretty easy to get into. I thought the second book drug on a bit, but Sanderson usually keeps the pace at a pretty good clip.
While I really liked Mistborn, you can tell he's become a much better writer with The Stormlight Archive.
For the Dark Tower series, I really liked the first couple of books. However, I stopped reading after Wizard and Glass.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 3:47 pm to BlacknGold
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i keep hearing more and more about mistborn. what else would yall compare it to? is it easy to read or a bit to get through? I found ASOIAF extremely taxing to read and keep my attention. Martin just rambles and rambles about irrelevant things for too long.
Just for a comparison...
I've read some boring books in my life, read and enjoyed them even. ASOIAF is, upon starting the series on 3 separate occasions, one of the most bland books I've ever read. Maybe I was never in the mood for it, or it wasn't the right time, but they were boring and pointless. That's the worst kind of read. I find more excitement in Tolkien's writing than in Martin's.
I'm not going to say Mistborn is thematically rich, but they are fantastic, quick reads. Read all three in 7 weeks or so. Have not read Alloy of Law yet (pr Stormlight) but plan to. I enjoyed them quite a bit.
Mistborn is a very cinematic-like read, so it's exciting and much faster paced. I'm not sure of a good comparison. I like it less than the aforementioned Tolkien, Piers Anthony or the Weiss and Hickman books, but more than a lot of other fantasy reads.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 3:55 pm to Freauxzen
sounds like i will like it. tolkien and martin are some of the most boring writers i have tried. so hearing you say that makes me want to give it a shot
Posted on 9/22/14 at 4:08 pm to Freauxzen
You are out of your fricking mind
Posted on 9/22/14 at 4:18 pm to Josh Fenderman
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You are out of your fricking mind
Oh noes!
I'm just comparing myself to BnG who was also unimpressed with Martin's writing.
I like good writers sometimes more than just good stories. And bad writers can ruin good stories. Like I said, it could have been the wrong time and I wasn't set to deal with unimpressive writing on top of what started out as a pretty bland narrative. I'm sure it gets better, but the slog of that first book was tough to get through.
I fully plan to pick it up again, but I need to be more careful, prepare for a slog kind of thing. I just haven't been in the mood for slow moving books personally. And it doesn't sound like BnG is either. Martin is a completely joyless writer, some people don't like that.
Or he needs to take some cues from Dan Simmons who can write completely joyless and dense stuff, but actually make it interesting. The Terror is a slog, but a slog that works.
This post was edited on 9/22/14 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 9/22/14 at 4:27 pm to Freauxzen
The first book is the least of a slog type read in the series. The chapters are the shortest and they pretty much all end on a cliffhanger. You mention Sanderson writing in a cinematic style. Martin has experience writing for TV, and it shows in the first book.
I could understand if you said that and had read up to the fifth book once, but the first three? No fricking way. Having read the fourth and fifth for a second time, they are much more entertaining when it's easier to put people and places together.
I could understand if you said that and had read up to the fifth book once, but the first three? No fricking way. Having read the fourth and fifth for a second time, they are much more entertaining when it's easier to put people and places together.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 4:36 pm to Cockopotamus
I have read and enjoyed both series, but I found myself enjoying Mistborn more. Both are definitely worth reading.
I have been a huge Sanderson fan since I stumbled upon Stormlight Archive. I did the audiobooks for Mistborn and I flew through it.
I have been a huge Sanderson fan since I stumbled upon Stormlight Archive. I did the audiobooks for Mistborn and I flew through it.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 4:40 pm to Josh Fenderman
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The first book is the least of a slog type read in the series. The chapters are the shortest and they pretty much all end on a cliffhanger. You mention Sanderson writing in a cinematic style. Martin has experience writing for TV, and it shows in the first book.
I just don't see it. There's no kinetic nature to his writing, no scene setting, no excitement, just plodding description sort of like Tolkien, but not as artistic or passionate. So it's empty, much like his characters (at least initially).
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I could understand if you said that and had read up to the fifth book once, but the first three? No fricking way. Having read the fourth and fifth for a second time, they are much more entertaining when it's easier to put people and places together.
Quite possibly. Like I said, I'm sure it gets better, that's a certainty for how much people like it, but I couldn't stand the early stuff enough to keep going. I find the popularity fascinating just given my current reaction to the books. To each his own, but it's rare for me to just plain not like fantasy. GoT was the book that made me stop reading fantasy a few years back. Yeah my initial reaction was pretty bad.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 4:43 pm to Josh Fenderman
i got through books 1 and 2 pretty easily. book 2 really started to stretch through with Tyrions whole thing. then the first half of book 3 just ruined it all. it was extremely hard to get through. i was like 400 in and barely enjoying it.
ive talked to others who have had similar experiences. i dont have the time to read 50 pages every day. and if you dont, you will lose count on whats happening since 200+pages can separate a particular characters chapters. the books just get to be so dense.
ive talked to others who have had similar experiences. i dont have the time to read 50 pages every day. and if you dont, you will lose count on whats happening since 200+pages can separate a particular characters chapters. the books just get to be so dense.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 4:47 pm to Freauxzen
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I just don't see it. There's no kinetic nature to his writing, no scene setting, no excitement, just plodding description sort of like Tolkien, but not as artistic or passionate. So it's empty, much like his characters (at least initially).
Okay then. I can't see your viewpoint either because I disagree with everything you typed here. I'm not the guy to try to sway you the other way, but I'm sure there are plenty others on this board that would enjoy trying if you started a thread about it one day.
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