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acgeaux129
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Yeah, let's bring up Godwin's law for an issue as complex as the United States' treatment of Native Americans, especially when 90% of them died before contact with white settlers.





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True. Our holocaust ended so soon because we ran out of people to scalp and behead.


Why do you have so much contempt for America?

I read your posts everyday and everything that comes out your posts is always bad about this country?






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HonoraryCoonass
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Tuskegee 


Trail of Tears 


Should I go on? 
_________________________________________Philippine–American War genocide 

Tax-payer funded holocaust of Native Americans 

Abu Ghraib 


One of these things is not like the others.



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Stingray
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We are a pretty benevolent fricking empire all things considered.


This is the summation of this thread. We make mistakes and act badly, but could be much worse. And it is something to be proud of, imo.






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We are a pretty benevolent fricking empire all things considered


Exactly, everything we ever do is bad in the eyes some.

I was making the point earlier today that we are a generous country. The negative feedback was breathtaking.






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help them set up governments
That's a curse, not a blessing.
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and then leave
Sometimes. Maybe...
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We are a pretty benevolent fricking empire all things considered
Not being as atrocious in certain cases =/= benevolence






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acgeaux129
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That's a curse, not a blessing.


My b, we should have guided a society that had been ruled by an emperor for centuries into the utopia of anarcho-capitalism.

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Sometimes. Maybe...


yawn

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Not being as atrocious in certain cases =/= benevolence


Meh, we could take over half the world if we wanted to. Not sure what you expect.






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especially when 90% of them died before contact with white settlers.
lulz.

Wholesale slaughter of Native Americans is no longer an atrocity?

Man. What a week for liberals!


Let me spell this out for you guys, how crazy this shite is for me, as someone who grew up during the Cold War:

1) The concept that Russia just brokered peace between the US and a foreign power as a means to prevent unnecessary bloodshed ranks among the most directly and patently absurd things I could have ever expected to happen. I remember when we were doing that to keep them from slaughtering people. Up is down, black is fricking white. frickballs.
RUSSIA HAD TO PLEAD WITH US TO SEEK A DIPLOMATIC frickING SOLUTION!!! Let that steak marinate for a while.

2) Putin parrots Obama's sentiments on American Exceptionality, and Obama and the dems are upset.

3) Now they are apologists for slavery, Native American genocide, and all of our imperialism.



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Blue Velvet
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let's bring up Godwin's law for an issue as complex as the United States' treatment of Native Americans, especially when 90% of them died before contact with white settlers.

Are you denying the fact that the state of California paid settlers for every scalp or for every severed Native American head they returned? Are you denying the enslavement of those same people? Thousands of people of all ages were murdered.

“[Unless the Indians are sent east of the Sierras] a War of Extermination will continue to be waged until the Indian race should become extinct…”- Peter Burnett (Gov. of CA) 1851

Nope. Not a holocaust.






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It's kinda funny how roles have changed all because of Syria





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Roaad
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Nope. Not a holocaust.
Defending Obama makes history all different-like.






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Roaad
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It's kinda funny how roles have changed all because of Syria
It is completely insane






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Who are you talking about?

Sounds like a straw man argument or can you directly cite the people you criticize?






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heartbreakTiger
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The obombers use to think the south was disgusting over slavery now it's not a big deal.

Also interesting seeing some that were anti bama now defending him






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My b, we should have guided a society that had been ruled by an emperor for centuries into the utopia of anarcho-capitalism.
Don't be going off on straw mans now, boy.
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yawn
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Meh, we could take over half the world if we wanted to.
And...? How is that relevant to the fact that decades of atrocities =/= benevolence?
Try to keep up.






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Who are you talking about?
which part

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or can you directly cite the people you criticize?
Gladly.

Give me a point you are concerned about, and I will gladly cite every thing you think is incorrect.






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Blue Velvet
The USA not taking over the world is evidence of our benevolence.

H-O-L-Y S-H-I-T






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Stingray
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1) The concept that Russia just brokered peace between the US and a foreign power as a means to prevent unnecessary bloodshed ranks among the most directly and patently absurd things I could have ever expected to happen. I remember when we were doing that to keep them from slaughtering people. Up is down, black is fricking white. frickballs. RUSSIA HAD TO PLEAD WITH US TO SEEK A DIPLOMATIC frickING SOLUTION!!! Let that steak marinate for a while.


You are ig nit. Russa is playing the game in order to avoid our military dominance FOR THEIR OWN INTERESTS. If it was the other way around putin would have bombed the shite out of syria already.






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Roaad
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I don't punch everyone I see in the face, because of how benevolent I am.





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Roaad
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Russa is playing the game in order to avoid our military dominance FOR THEIR OWN INTERESTS.
I know they are working in their own financial interest, so were we in trying to attack.

Was it over military dominance? That's fricking stupid.







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