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Posted on 3/18/15 at 2:27 pm to
Posted by Fratastic423
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Posted on 3/18/15 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

Is there something else to it?


No, I was saying that you are paying for the best of both worlds. The count of dry yeast but the instant pitchability of liquid yeast.
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 3/18/15 at 2:35 pm to
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My point was, isn't the reason you pay more for Gigayeast to not have to make a starter with it? Why pay more for the same yeast (assuming we are talking about the Cali Yeast) if there is no benefit from using it?


I use them bc I like trying new yeast strains, it's only $3 more than 1056, and the packaging looks like the NES legend of zelda cartridge.

Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
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Posted on 3/18/15 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

Beer seems real hop forward with little to no malt body.


sounds perfect!
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/18/15 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

My point was, isn't the reason you pay more for Gigayeast to not have to make a starter with it? Why pay more for the same yeast (assuming we are talking about the Cali Yeast) if there is no benefit from using it?


Well you also have to think about those that step up their starters. I don't do this, i do a simple 1 liter starter a day or 2 before pitching. So if i'm using white labs or wyeast, i have no idea if i reached 200 billion cells because i don't think beersmith calculates for stepping up a starter. It also depends on the age of the yeast as well.

I personally haven't come across any negative effects with Gigayeast and starters. Granted 1 IPA was with the Vermont strand and it finished out at 1.014. My brown ale won't be ready to drink until next week so i won't know the flavor profile completely, but it tasted fantastic when i measured the FG which was at 1.012.

Oh, and i dry hopped the brown ale with 2 oz. cascade and 1 oz. centennial, per the boards suggestions, and it tasted pretty good. More of a hoppy brown ale than a traditional brown ale, but it was an American Brown so i guess that is the style.
Posted by s14suspense
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Posted on 3/18/15 at 5:02 pm to
I got you. I completely agree. Was nice knowing I could pitch it all for a pale ale and take a slurry of the yeast cake for the IPA a week later.
Posted by Fratastic423
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 8:32 am to
I didnt mean to start the back and forth yesterday. Sorry to bring down the board with my laziness.
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 9:37 am to
quote:

I didnt mean to start the back and forth yesterday. Sorry to bring down the board with my laziness.


I thought it was entertaining and yet all a little confusing/misunderstandings.
Posted by HungryFisherman
Houston,TX / BR, LA
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 3/20/15 at 1:29 pm to
Yeast Starter question:

We are brewing an IPA next Saturday. We haven't used a starter yet, but figured we may want to on this one since the OG is estimated at 1.069. After googling and reading Palmer's method, I found this LINK

Does that method look okay to yall? Will 1 quart be enough of a starter? Too much?

We are planning to use a vial of WLP001.

Thanks fellas.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38814 posts
Posted on 3/20/15 at 1:50 pm to
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Yeast Starter question:


1 quart = +- 1 liter

Looks like you need a 2 liter starter for your gravity and I assume a 5 gallon batch and no stir plate.

Yeast Starter calculator

With that said, 1 liter would probably work fine.

The Palmer method looks fine.

boil water, add extract, boil for 10 minutes or so, cut heat and cool. I stick mine in a freezer covered with sanitized aluminum foil. Keep everything sanitized after boil. When down to 75 or so pitch yeast. Cover whatever vessel you use as a starter with sanitized aluminum foil, pick up and shake to aerate starter every couple 3 hrs if you can. Don't worry about getting up in the night to shake it.

The whole process is a lot easier with a 2 liter Erlenmeyer....boil, cool and pitch in the same Erlenmeyer.
This post was edited on 3/20/15 at 1:56 pm
Posted by DVA Tailgater
Bunkie
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 3/23/15 at 10:53 am to
I am looking for a good extract recipe for a 1 gallon batch of cream ale. Any suggestions?

I've got 5 gallons of wheat that I'll be adding blackberries to tonight
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
2428 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:12 am to
They actually make 1 gallon extract recipes?

Try something like

300g Pilsner DME
300g Light DME
150g Rice Syrup

15 IBUs Liberty @ 60 mins
3g Liberty @ 0 mins

half a pack of rehydrated US05 dry yeast
ferment in the low to mid 60s
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
Member since Aug 2004
15957 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:18 am to
quote:

I am looking for a good extract recipe for a 1 gallon batch of cream ale. Any suggestions?


I can help you with this when I get back from a meeting
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
Member since Aug 2004
15957 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:19 am to
Brulosophy did another trub experiment

LINK
Posted by DVA Tailgater
Bunkie
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:27 am to
quote:

I can help you with this when I get back from a meeting



Thanks
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
Member since Aug 2004
15957 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 2:18 pm to
I made a blueberry cream ale a couple years ago using the AHS extract kit. Using Beersmith to scale down the recipe I got something like this:

1.5 lb of Pale LME

steeping grains:
2.2 oz Carapils
1.5 oz two-row
.75 oz Crystal 40
1.5 oz malto-dextrine

0.1 oz Willatte hops @ 60
0.25 oz Fuggles @ 5

WLP080 Cream Ale Yeast Blend
Posted by DVA Tailgater
Bunkie
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 3/23/15 at 3:30 pm to
Thanks Lone Star
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14709 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 8:00 pm to
Working on checking hydrometer and refractometer accuracy while I have a bunch of RO water laying around... I know you're supposed to use distilled but I can't imagine it's THAT much different than RO? maybe I'm wrong, I don't know.

First two shots are water. Please excuse broken hydrometer test jar...


Refractometer is dead on after a slight tick up on the calibration screw(was at .999ish)



Making some starter wort now to compare with wort. Already not happy with hydrometer. What would you call that? 1.003?

So again now with wort.

1.034-35


Guess it's safe to say hydrometer is off by a good .003-.004?
This post was edited on 3/23/15 at 8:46 pm
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27177 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:50 am to
I stopped using my el cheapo refractometer because it was unreliable. It read fine at 1.000, but the higher it got, the more it got off. I compared it to two hydrometers. The hydrometers matched up. The refractometer was off by about 5 on a 1.050 wort.
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14709 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:57 am to
quote:

I stopped using my el cheapo refractometer because it was unreliable. It read fine at 1.000, but the higher it got, the more it got off. I compared it to two hydrometers. The hydrometers matched up. The refractometer was off by about 5 on a 1.050 wort.


Yes. Apparently there's a new adjusted scale that should be used for refracts on the SG side.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27177 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:03 am to
Is the brix side correct?
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