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re: The truth about Garrett Hartley

Posted on 5/2/13 at 1:45 pm to
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/2/13 at 1:45 pm to
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6 of 7 in 40-49 and 2 of 2 from 50+. That's 8 of 9.


which all combined for 27th in the league for efficiency, congrats, lets keep this guy for life.
Posted by bonethug0108
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Posted on 5/2/13 at 1:47 pm to
Go back and read my edit.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/2/13 at 1:49 pm to
Hartley's career % is faulty cause he's not his career % for 5 years now, he's been bottom of the league % avg. It's like still employing Charles Grant in 2013 cause in 2008 he had 11 sacks.
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 5/2/13 at 1:50 pm to
His miss in gb was 48 yds
This post was edited on 5/2/13 at 1:51 pm
Posted by F machine
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Posted on 5/2/13 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

He's par


27th in the league for efficiency isn't par.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 5/2/13 at 1:56 pm to
Any Hartley kick and I'm all messed up...




Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
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Posted on 5/2/13 at 1:56 pm to
Posted by Hoodoo Man
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Posted on 5/2/13 at 1:58 pm to
Posted by F machine
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Posted on 5/2/13 at 2:04 pm to
That gif makes me laugh every time I see it.
Posted by JPLIII
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Posted on 5/2/13 at 2:05 pm to
Huh, interesting. Shoot....great kickers are a dime a dozen, lets just go pick one up.
Posted by bonethug0108
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Posted on 5/2/13 at 2:05 pm to
Thought it was originally 45 before the penalty. My mistake.

That's all I'm saying JPL. Not that we shouldn't replace him. It's is there someone to replace him. Carney was hovering around 80ish% before we dumped him and it lead to 2 awful years.

Find a replacement first, and then boot him.
This post was edited on 5/2/13 at 2:10 pm
Posted by blueslover
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Posted on 5/2/13 at 2:06 pm to
thugs point of smaller number of tries carries some weight...

18 of 22 is 23rd in ranking. Making two of those though (20 of 22) would rank him 7th.

I'm not a Hartley apologist. I'm down for improvement whenever it can be had. In the light of so many changes this year kicker might be pretty low on the totem pole of priorities. Bring in Jasper or whoever and let them compete. The biggest issue is that it would cost more in cap than you would save cutting him this year. It is even more pronounced next year- will cost $500k to save $300K. For that fact, unless he stumbled bad in camp, kicker is likely a non issue for 2013.
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
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Posted on 5/2/13 at 2:07 pm to
Ur terrible. Imma get chicken' to ban you. U'll be sorry.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/2/13 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

Huh, interesting. Shoot....great kickers are a dime a dozen, lets just go pick one up.


Well a lot of the ones that top the Career % charts are young guys. Sometimes it takes a leap of faith on a talent without much history behind him. Not saying hartley sucks but if he's replacable with a cheaper talent who's his equal or possibly better, frick it.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/2/13 at 2:08 pm to
quote:

18 of 22 is 23rd in ranking. Making two of those though (20 of 22) would rank him 7th.


how's that different from all the kickers in the league that had an oopsy miss.
Posted by JPLIII
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/2/13 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

Not saying hartley sucks but if he's replacable with a cheaper talent who's his equal or possibly better, frick it.


Nah, I know. I agree with the fact that he's inconsistent. My a-hole tightens up every time he lines up for a kick. I'm just not sure that we can easily go out and find someone that is a whole lot better. Not saying impossible, since it seems that SP tries to always have another kicker in camp to "push" hartley, but at the same time, SP seems to dig the kid. Luckily for us, Drew says frick a fg and gets us 6's.

But yeah, it'd be nice to have at least a solid kicker.
Posted by blueslover
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Posted on 5/2/13 at 2:19 pm to
it is no different, that is the point. Ya gotta look beyond statistical rankings. The #1 FG% kicker last year was waived by two teams before Washington picked him up in October. Do I want him over Hartley? No.

Hartley has a cap hit this year but it actually reduces in half for 2014 & 15
Posted by Hoodoo Man
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/2/13 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

Hartley has a cap hit this year but it actually reduces in half for 2014 & 15

What's up with that?
Posted by htran90
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Posted on 5/2/13 at 2:32 pm to
I posted this in another thread a few months back, but here's some food for thought. You all want high % FG kickers <40 yards right? those kicks should be "near" automatic.

he has a career 86% from under 40 yards. Personally, I'm more worried about those "easy" kicks he should be making that have costed us games. for comparison sake:
matt bryant has a 92.6% from under 40
connor barth has a 92.9%
gostkowski has a 90.5%
vinatieri has a 89.9%
janikowski has a 94.1%
jay feely has a 90.3%
akers has a 93.2%
kasay has a 93.7%
carney has a 90.8%
Posted by CptRusty
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Posted on 5/2/13 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

I'd like to know the distances he missed from in 2011.


quote:

he didn't play.



I was talking about Kasay
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