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re: Newsflash: Claiborne and Tyrann were not diamonds in the rough
Posted on 1/20/13 at 7:09 pm to lynxcat
Posted on 1/20/13 at 7:09 pm to lynxcat
Mo was a three star. What else is there to say? I agree he should have been rated higher, but he wasn't.
Kevin Spears is a three star on one service and is unrated on two others. After watching his video, I'm positive this guy is a major college prospect.
Kevin Spears is a three star on one service and is unrated on two others. After watching his video, I'm positive this guy is a major college prospect.
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 7:18 pm to lynxcat
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Claiborne: Once his video was up and available for people to see, everyone was huge on his ability
How is this different than what happened with Spears?
By all accounts, this kids video is great against good competition.
Posted on 1/20/13 at 7:20 pm to lynxcat
I agree with your original assesment on those two players. But you are using the skills of an evaluator rather than the hype of a star-gazer. They were hidden gems from a star-gazer perspective. Who will ever forget the threads for those two back in the day. I think the name Ratphuk Hobley was prominent in both.
Posted on 1/20/13 at 7:27 pm to Lsupimp
if Ratphuk Hobley wants in, we'll make space.
Posted on 1/20/13 at 7:47 pm to lynxcat
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I agree that his commitment made everyone go "and who is this?"...and then an hour later film finally got posted at TigerBait and the entire fanbase rejoiced
And if you don't see this exact scenario with Spears, you sir are the fool. Some highlights are flashy and some are just pure talent. The comparison to Mo is due to the Tech offer, much like Spears. It's an accurate comparison when defining a diamond in the rough..deal with it.
Posted on 1/20/13 at 7:48 pm to DownByTheBayou
quote:That shits as old as Lynx's last relevant post...
Ratphuk Hobley
This post was edited on 1/20/13 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 1/20/13 at 8:04 pm to lynxcat
Come on. Mathieu's best offer outside of LSU was Southern Miss. You can not convince me that he wasn't a "diamond in the rough." At least Claiborne had some other decent offers from A&M and Nebraska. Other schools had plenty of time to jump on Mathieu because he committed to LSU in July.
Posted on 1/20/13 at 8:11 pm to lynxcat
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I agree that his commitment made everyone go "and who is this?"...and then an hour later film finally got posted at TigerBait and the entire fanbase rejoiced.
More like a month later, and I know you remember all the crying and gnashing of teeth when we picked him up it was bad.
Posted on 1/20/13 at 8:14 pm to lynxcat
You sir are an idiot. Claiborne turned out to be a great receiver. TM7 was a piss ant quick dude with a huge ego. Yeah Chavis and Ron Cooper made them what they are.
Posted on 1/20/13 at 8:15 pm to Noplacelikehome
Claiborne was a three star. One of the top 750 prospects. Not exactly predictive of a first round pick. Or a Heisman nomination either for that matter or defensive player of the year awards when also including Mathieu and his accomplishments
Posted on 1/20/13 at 8:21 pm to Jaketigger
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Claiborne turned out to be a great receiver.
I know you meant cornerback, but I think that Mo was actually a better WR than a lot of the guys he covered in college. He made a few INTs that looked like he was the guy running the route and caught the ball like a WR.
Posted on 1/20/13 at 8:24 pm to tigerfoot
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Claiborne was a three star. One of the top 750 prospects. Not exactly predictive of a first round pick. Or a Heisman nomination either for that matter or defensive player of the year awards when also including Mathieu and his accomplishments
The problem people had with Claiborne was getting a relative unknown when we were down to so few slots remaining. People thought it meant worse things, like the big fish on the board weren't coming.
Posted on 1/20/13 at 8:28 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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The problem people had with Claiborne was getting a relative unknown when we were down to so few slots remaining. People thought it meant worse things, like the big fish on the board weren't coming.
Hence, Spears
Posted on 1/20/13 at 8:28 pm to Jaketigger
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Posted by Jaketigger You sir are an idiot. Claiborne turned out to be a great receiver. TM7 was a piss ant quick dude with a huge ego. Yeah Chavis and Ron Cooper made them what they are.
I'm not going to say they made TM7. Tyrann was a park ball legend and was the best high school player in New Orleans for a few years. Lock down corners don't get much attention on average/bad teams unless they go to camp. New Orleans people knew about him though.
Posted on 1/20/13 at 8:31 pm to tigerbru17
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Hence, Spears
Probably some similarity, with so few slots left.
Posted on 1/20/13 at 8:37 pm to dj30
I think this thread goes to show the exact kind of nonsense I was trying to explain in the first place
Also consistent is the people who have been active on the RB for years can recount what I am describing...oh what a coincidence.
Also consistent is the people who have been active on the RB for years can recount what I am describing...oh what a coincidence.
Posted on 1/20/13 at 8:38 pm to RogerTheShrubber
TM7 was pretty well received around here when we offered and he committed. His legend had grown by that time because of the Tennessee camp and the word of our insiders.
Claiborne was known about by very few and that's why the uproar when he committed. His film was great but he would/should still be considered a diamond in the rough because of the obscurity he had during his recruitment.
Pretty much most of these recruits are diamonds in the rough if you really think about it. Very few of them are fully ready to play well at the college level right away. They all need to be coached up and smoothed out. It's why we hire coaches and why there are so many top ranked recruits that don't pan out. They're all projections and that always comes with some rawness and rough edges.
Claiborne was known about by very few and that's why the uproar when he committed. His film was great but he would/should still be considered a diamond in the rough because of the obscurity he had during his recruitment.
Pretty much most of these recruits are diamonds in the rough if you really think about it. Very few of them are fully ready to play well at the college level right away. They all need to be coached up and smoothed out. It's why we hire coaches and why there are so many top ranked recruits that don't pan out. They're all projections and that always comes with some rawness and rough edges.
Posted on 1/20/13 at 8:45 pm to lsufanva
Funny how recruiting has changed over the years. These recruiting services have really created a bunch of star gazers out there. I had a friend get a football scholarship to LSU back in the early 80's and no one outside of the local area had ever heard of him but he was a local legend.
Posted on 1/20/13 at 9:01 pm to lynxcat
Worst post ever! Who cares.. They played here. They were awesome. I don't give a frick if they were DFR or known talent... They wore purple and gold and rocked out with their cocks out!
Posted on 1/20/13 at 9:02 pm to lynxcat
Tyrann, you have a point. Claiborne was a 2-3 star ATHLETE who was primarily a QB in HS, and didn't have a good offer list.
How was Claiborne not a diamond in the rough? Smooth athlete or not, that wasn't enough for services to vault him quickly to the top of their lists or for other big schools to fight for his signature.
How was Claiborne not a diamond in the rough? Smooth athlete or not, that wasn't enough for services to vault him quickly to the top of their lists or for other big schools to fight for his signature.
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