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re: All-Grain Brewing Step-by-Step

Posted on 1/14/13 at 8:39 am to
Posted by Fratastic423
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5990 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 8:39 am to
I ended up not brewing this weekend, damn.

Nice write up. Really intrigued by the no chill and batch sparging really. Even though I have been brewing for a while I keep changing up my process. Batch sparged the last batch and it came out fine. Typically I fly sparge though.

I am starting to get pumped about Zapp's.
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14693 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 11:10 am to
quote:

I believe Baton Rouge water is at 8.8, is this correct?


Apparently so.
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This post was edited on 1/14/13 at 11:17 am
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14693 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 12:42 pm to
quote:

I was reading a section on water, and they advise PH levels of water




They're referring to the PH levels of the mash. Not necessarily the water. Correct?
Posted by swampdawg
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2007
5141 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 12:46 pm to
BR water is on the alkaline side, but I never bother adjusting my PH and my lighter beers come out fine. I just add some calcium and I am good to go.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52787 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 1:03 pm to
Well i think i may buy some of that ph 5.2 stuff.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52787 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

They're referring to the PH levels of the mash. Not necessarily the water. Correct?


I believe so. Mash and sparge water.
This post was edited on 1/14/13 at 1:04 pm
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14693 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

Well i think i may buy some of that ph 5.2 stuff.


Thinking I'll do the same soon. Seems like a no brainer for all grain brewing.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38686 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

Well i think i may buy some of that ph 5.2 stuff.



Thinking I'll do the same soon. Seems like a no brainer for all grain brewing.


The 5.2 stuff can cause other problems...i.e. salty taste to beer.
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
8848 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

The 5.2 stuff can cause other problems...i.e. salty taste to beer.


I've heard this, but have not noticed it in my beer for BR water. So maybe it depends on the water source of whether or not the 5.2 can add too much salinity to a batch.
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14693 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

The 5.2 stuff can cause other problems...i.e. salty taste to beer.


Really?

Curious to hear about some other people's water adjustments in BR.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101919 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 2:02 pm to
I've never had a problem with it, but I'm only two all-grain batches in. (That I've tasted)

And I only used it on the strike water, not the sparge water... might need to correct that. Although I thought the main point was in enzyme conversion during the mash phase.
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14693 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

And I only used it on the strike water, not the sparge water... might need to correct that. Although I thought the main point was in enzyme conversion during the mash phase.



Correct from what I know. Your mash should maintain its PH
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38686 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 2:51 pm to
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I've never had a problem with it, but I'm only two all-grain batches in.


I'm no expert, but I did research ph 5.2 a while back. It seemed the consensus among people that actually tested their Mash ph was 5.2 did not do anything. Most people claimed adding Calcium Carbonate (CaCO3) to raise the alkalinity (ph) or Lactic Acid to lower it was a much better solution. I too need to learn more about water chemistry but I usually just ask the guys at the LHBS what I should add for whatever style of beer I am brewing. I usally don't have to do anything. But I do add gypsum to all my IPAs which really brightens the hops.

ETA: The other thing you can do is boil your mash water before starting your mash. This will lower the alkalinity some......but BR water may be too low anyway...not sure.
This post was edited on 1/14/13 at 2:57 pm
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27094 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 3:07 pm to
I tried two batches with the general ph stabilizer stuff. Both times I tested the ph with those strips and it was still high - like 5.8-6.0, if I'm remembering correctly, though those color strips are never the same color as the legend on the container.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101919 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 3:11 pm to
Yeah, I don't actually do any PH testing, just use the 5.2 stabilizer. Maybe one day I'll have testing equipment too. That's pretty low on the list though, as I don't see it as extremely important.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19809 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 5:18 pm to
quote:

Yes, room temperature. The morning before I ferment itI will throw itin my fermentation cabinet and get it to pitching temps.

I use this container.


How hard are those to sanitize?
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27094 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 5:57 pm to
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How hard are those to sanitize?


Easy. In my research I read where people just pour the hot wort in there and let it do the sanitizing as it's still 190+ degrees. Just to be sure I give it a quick starsan rinse before dumping the wort in there. Once the wort is in there I squeeze all the air out, close it up, and turn it on it's side to make sure the hot liquid come in contact with the top for a few minutes and heat sanitizes it.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19809 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 8:03 pm to
quote:

Easy. In my research I read where people just pour the hot wort in there and let it do the sanitizing as it's still 190+ degrees. Just to be sure I give it a quick starsan rinse before dumping the wort in there. Once the wort is in there I squeeze all the air out, close it up, and turn it on it's side to make sure the hot liquid come in contact with the top for a few minutes and heat sanitizes it.


Ok, I'll give that a try. Combing this with BIAB is really going to streamline all-grain brewing for me.
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