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re: Dallas Cowboys Offseason Thread (Draft Pg. 4)

Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:10 pm to
Posted by DaGarun
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Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:10 pm to
Butch Davis?
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:16 pm to
Yup
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:18 pm to
That would be awesome to sign Lovie in this spot.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:19 pm to
I forgot Greg Williams could be the guy.
Posted by DaGarun
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Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:19 pm to
Knowing Jerruh, it'll be Campo again
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:20 pm to
I mean this nicely DaG

Drink gasoline and eat glass don't EVER mention that name in regards to Dallas, again.
Posted by DaGarun
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Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:23 pm to
Dude...I'm hurt.

What about Capers? Is he out there? Honestly, I have paid zero attention to the market since I though Rob was safe. I thought he did a decent job, considering...
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Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:25 pm to
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I forgot Greg Williams could be the guy.



Frick that dude.
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Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:49 pm to
Posted by DaGarun
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Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:53 pm to
You know you can skip threads, right? Chicken allows that.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 1/8/13 at 10:27 pm to
When is cut day? I expect Felix to be gone.
Posted by DaGarun
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 7:45 pm to
So, could it be Monte? Seems a little long in the tooth to me...

Cowboys eye Monte Kiffin for DC

I read Ray Horton was a candidate, too, fwiw.
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Posted by DaGarun
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 7:46 pm to
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When is cut day? I expect Felix to be gone.

Don't know the day, but I do too.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 8:18 pm to
I don't think it's Kiffin. It's not the Cowboys style to announce to the world who they interview then not hire same day or have sources spout off about it.
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 8:30 pm to
Monte Kiffin is a clown pick bro.
Posted by DaGarun
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 8:40 pm to
From what I've read, Horton could be a strong pick. But Monte gives me the "mehs"
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 9:32 pm to
Bringing on a dude that old to totally switch defensive schemes is a bad idea.
Posted by DaGarun
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:12 pm to
I agree. I want younger blood. Of, course I'd start with the owner, but not sure that's an option
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Posted on 1/11/13 at 2:47 am to
From Dan Graziano at ESPN:

First thing I want to say is this: If the Dallas Cowboys fired defensive coordinator Rob Ryan because they wanted to switch from a 3-4 defense to a 4-3 defense and they don't already have Ryan's successor lined up, I think they're nuts. I don't think you decide as an organization to switch to a 4-3 and then decide you're just going to go out and hire the best 4-3 guy you can find to run it. Not all 4-3s are created equal, and I think the better way is to find the coordinator you like and involve him in the process of making the switch, right from the start. So my first thought here is that, if the head coach and/or owner have decided to make this switch, Cowboys fans should hope they've already been in touch with whoever's going to be in charge of actually implementing it.

But you know, there were performance-based reasons to fire Ryan if that's what they wanted to do, and obviously teams don't always operate with common sense as their guiding principle, so it's possible that Jerry Jones and/or Jason Garrett have decided to go to a 4-3 without thinking it through to that extent. I actually think it's possible that they're doing it for economic reasons. John Clayton has the Cowboys projected $18.2 million over the salary cap, which means there are a lot of people on the current defense who don't fit into the budget. Switching to a 4-3 could help that.

Think about it. If they can't afford to keep Anthony Spencer, Jay Ratliff and Marcus Spears, they could move to a 4-3 alignment with DeMarcus Ware and Tyrone Crawford at the ends and Jason Hatcher and Sean Lissemore at tackle. Sean Lee plays the middle linebacker, Bruce Carter the weak side and you go out and find yourself a strongside linebacker, which would be easier and cheaper than keeping or trying to replace Spencer as a 3-4 outside linebacker. Crawford, last year's third-round draft pick, is probably better suited to be a 4-3 end anyway, and the price is right on him.

Financial reasons might not be the most sound or inspirational motivation behind a change like this, but they are a facts of life, and I suspect they're at play in this decision here. I have little doubt that Ware could handle rushing from a three-point stance or that Lee would be an excellent middle linebacker. And if they were able to keep, say, Ratliff, he might benefit from being one of two 4-3 defensive tackles instead of a single 3-4 nose. So you can make this make sense in your head, which is what the Cowboys may be doing. I just feel like they need to figure out who's in charge of the thing before they start making offseason decisions based on some significant new framework.
Posted by BeYou
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Posted on 1/11/13 at 2:50 am to
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So, could it be Monte? Seems a little long in the tooth to me..


Kiffin has a great track record, even given his age, and time away from the NFL, which is a slight concern for me. But the "Tampa 2" which Kiffin was responsible for popularizing, has become almost a dinosaur in recent years. A couple of teams still use it with varying degrees of success, but there are reasons it has fallen out of favor. Might as well find an Ernie Stautner and bring back the Flex.

I think Kiffin is much better than just a system guy, so I don't discount it at all. But you really need someone who is always adjusting to the game and to his personnel and making the system a product of the talent, rather than forcing players into a system. I hate system guys.
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