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re: Soooo which players aren't back next year?

Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:46 pm to
Posted by bearhc
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:46 pm to
Will Smith, Roman Harper, Sedric Ellis, Devery Henderson will probably go. All of our efforts need to focus on defense. If there is some way to sign Mike Wallace and stay under the cap, I would do it.
Posted by seibert23
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
177 posts
Posted on 12/30/12 at 4:06 pm to
Hopeful departures: Will Smith, Roman Harper, Scott Shanle, Will Herring, Jonathan Cassilas, Sed Ellis, Turk Mcbride, Jonny Patrick, Devery Henderson, Courtney Roby,

Hopeful signings: Dashon Goldson(SF), Micheal Johnson(CIN), Cliff Avril(DET), Shaun Philips(SD), Glenn Dorsey(KC), Brent Grimes(ATL), Jake Long(MIA)
Posted by ATLienTiger
NOLA
Member since Oct 2006
26858 posts
Posted on 12/30/12 at 4:11 pm to
If we got just 1 of the following I'd be happy:

quote:

Dashon Goldson(SF), Micheal Johnson(CIN), Cliff Avril(DET), Brent Grimes(ATL), Jake Long(MIA), William Moore(ATL)


But some of those are bank busters.
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32859 posts
Posted on 12/30/12 at 4:20 pm to
quote:

Hopeful signings: Dashon Goldson(SF), Micheal Johnson(CIN), Cliff Avril(DET), Shaun Philips(SD), Glenn Dorsey(KC), Brent Grimes(ATL), Jake Long(MIA)


Don't have the cap to make half those signings. Jake Long alone would probably put us over the cap.

And I'd rather have Moore than Goldson since we'd be stealing him from a division rival.

I'd like Avril or Johnson, but we can't get them both. Especially with Cam Jordan and Junior Gallette.

Why do you want Glenn Dorsey? He hasn't done anything in the NFL. I wouldn't mind bringing him in on a one year 'show me' contract, but I can't say he's any better than Hicks or Bunkley.
Posted by djrunner
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
5318 posts
Posted on 12/30/12 at 4:25 pm to
Dorsey?
Homer, he's a bigger bust then Sed.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64091 posts
Posted on 12/30/12 at 4:33 pm to


Hopeful signings: Dashon Goldson(SF), Micheal Johnson(CIN), Cliff Avril(DET), Shaun Philips(SD), Glenn Dorsey(KC), Brent Grimes(ATL), Jake Long(MIA)



Dude we MAY be able to afford ONE of these guys. You basically put down a list of the most expensive available free agents outside of Dorsey(who fricking sucks)
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
18962 posts
Posted on 12/30/12 at 4:43 pm to


Madden has gassed up so many fans to think they can just assemble a team of all stars without any cap implications. This isn't baseball where you can balloon a team's payroll up without reprocussions.

I'm still dying laughing at this post & the fact this dude thinks Glenn Dorsey is worth a damn.
Posted by fightingtigers98
Member since Oct 2011
13228 posts
Posted on 12/30/12 at 4:50 pm to
quote:

Micheal Johnson(CIN), Cliff Avril(DET)
one of these two and maybe William Moore
Posted by seibert23
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
177 posts
Posted on 12/30/12 at 5:15 pm to
Just a few FA off the top my head. I know we wouldn't be able to afford all of them, just hopeful for 1 or 2 of them. As far as being a homer, I'm very far from it but Dorsey can't be any worse then Ellis plus he would be cheap. Just like when we signed Shaun Rogers and Abrayo Franklin, cheap deals to see if they work out. Just calm down
This post was edited on 12/30/12 at 5:38 pm
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
20855 posts
Posted on 12/30/12 at 5:30 pm to
quote:

Disagree on Lofton. He's easily the best player on our D.


Agreed- Bad signing? I don't think so, he is where Vilma was a couple of years ago, he is a quality building block for the D.
Posted by Wolf
Member since Sep 2005
1336 posts
Posted on 12/31/12 at 4:53 pm to
Not that I want him, but Dorsey got fricked being drafted by KC. He is NOT a 3-4 NT. I'd like to see what he can do in a 4-3 as a pure DT
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71963 posts
Posted on 12/31/12 at 5:34 pm to
Yea I'm not sure why people are laughing at Dorsey. He's going to be an All Pro in a 4-3 scheme.

Dude made 54, 69, and 62 tackles as a 3-4 DT the past 3 seasons before getting hurt this year. That's pretty damn impressive. Not to mention his play freed up Hali, Gilberry and Houston to get to the QB.

1st of all, there are only a handful of DTs that get to the QB, much less 3-4 DTs. Considering the main job of the 3-4 DT is to eat up the run, id say Dorsey did a good job. Most of those guys are 330+ lbs.

If Dorsey comes back healthy, he could be a Suh type DT in a 4-3. Too bad he wasted 5 years in KC
This post was edited on 12/31/12 at 5:35 pm
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30083 posts
Posted on 12/31/12 at 5:44 pm to
quote:

Yea I'm not sure why people are laughing at Dorsey. He's going to be an All Pro in a 4-3 scheme.

Dude made 54, 69, and 62 tackles as a 3-4 DT the past 3 seasons before getting hurt this year. That's pretty damn impressive. Not to mention his play freed up Hali, Gilberry and Houston to get to the QB.

1st of all, there are only a handful of DTs that get to the QB, much less 3-4 DTs. Considering the main job of the 3-4 DT is to eat up the run, id say Dorsey did a good job. Most of those guys are 330+ lbs.

If Dorsey comes back healthy, he could be a Suh type DT in a 4-3. Too bad he wasted 5 years in KC



I don't think he'll be as good as suh, but I would bet any money he'd be a lot better than ellis. for a million, I would do it in a heartbeat. he's a monster at stopping the run, and I'm sure with a 4-3 system he could get some pressure on the QB
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71963 posts
Posted on 12/31/12 at 5:49 pm to
Suh type player.. Great at stuffing the run while being disruptive in the backfield like back in his LSU days
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30083 posts
Posted on 12/31/12 at 6:14 pm to
quote:

Suh type player.. Great at stuffing the run while being disruptive in the backfield like back in his LSU days



lol oops, thought you were comparing him to suh's level. As much as a bitch suh is, I still think 31 other teams will try to get him come free agency
Posted by LooseCannon22282
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Member since May 2008
33685 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 12:11 am to
quote:

Dorsey?
Homer, he's a bigger bust then Sed.



Dorsey played in a 3-4 scheme as a DT. Guess what? A 3-4 defense isn't designed to let the linemen get the glory. Its a linebacker friendly defense. When will people understand this?

And I wouldn't call either of those players busts.

Now, somebody like Jonathon Sullivan? Now there is a bust my friend
This post was edited on 1/1/13 at 12:13 am
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 7:28 am to
If the board got it's way we'd be fielding 11 new starters on the defense and 3 new starters on the o-line.

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