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Sophandros  New Orleans Saints Fan R'Lyeh Member since Feb 2005 40256 posts

| re: What's the best sports book you've read? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:25 am to Porter Osborne Jr)
For me, though: Moneyball The Teammates: A Portrait of a Friendship Summer of '49 The Education of a Coach Just off the top of my head. Halberstam was the man. We lost him way too soon.
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LSUBoo  Bowling Green Fan My Posting Goes To 11. Member since Mar 2006 54402 posts
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| re: What's the best sports book you've read? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:25 am to Porter Osborne Jr)
The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America Good shite right there.
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Sophandros  New Orleans Saints Fan R'Lyeh Member since Feb 2005 40256 posts

| re: What's the best sports book you've read? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:26 am to Meursault)
How Soccer Explains the World is also good. Also, Among the Thugs was a great read.
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JDM1992 In your head Member since Dec 2011 15141 posts

| re: What's the best sports book you've read? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:26 am to Porter Osborne Jr)
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Sophandros  New Orleans Saints Fan R'Lyeh Member since Feb 2005 40256 posts

| re: What's the best sports book you've read? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:29 am to Vicks Kennel Club)
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Scorecasting is first for sure.
Great read. As are Mathletics, Stumbling on Wins, and Baseball Between the Numbers. I need to post on this thread from home where I can stand in my library and pull books off the shelves. I just remembered Triumph and Tragedy in Mudville, which was by Stephen Jay Gould and forwarded by David Halberstam. Great fricking read.
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| re: What's the best sports book you've read? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:32 am to JDM1992)
The ones I can remember off the top of my head that I enjoyed: Moneyball Blind Side Soccernomics Meat Market Bruce Feldman's book about Miami It Never Rains in Tiger Stadium (I knew going in it was melancholy, so I wasn't surprised by the tone that turned most people off) Chuck Klosterman has a collection of his sports essays available for Kindle, I've read and enjoyed most of them. One of the worst ones I've ever read was by Mike Lupica. It was fiction, but it was so bad I don't even remember the name. A fake NFL story.
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Kracka  North Carolina Fan Laffy Taffy Member since Aug 2004 26991 posts

| re: What's the best sports book you've read? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:33 am to Porter Osborne Jr)
Boys Will Be Boys - Dallas Cowboys When the Game Was Ours - Larry & Magic Playing for Pizza
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LSU GrandDad  LSU Fan houston, texas Member since Jun 2009 9528 posts

| re: What's the best sports book you've read? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:35 am to Jcorye1)
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I'll go with the painfully obvious answer, Moneyball.
what is painfully obvious to me is that people view Moneyball as some sort of revelation in MLB. billy bean did not invent statistical evaluation of players as he infers. and scouts are not an inferior way to evaluate talent as he infers. i get that oakland doesn't have enough money to do both but the teams that actually win pennants and stuff do both. as far as taking college pitchers over hi-school kids he was lying. that's right, oakland got lucky with some draft choices as their stud pitchers in years they actually excelled. lastly, as far as valueing outs over the small ball strategem of advancing runners people completely ignore that he is in the american league. any perceived advantage (backed up by his own statistical choices) of that goes away in the NL. a manager in a one run game in the 9th inning with a runner on first with no outs is a fool not to advance that runner. if he hasn't practiced bunting he's fricked. i would be much more impressed with a book written by tony larussa than billy bean. he doesn't own the market on statistical evaluation of players and never has. he propelled a few good years of success (based on lucky pitcher selection) into an expose' of "how he is smarter than all the other gm's" and making big bucks from it. good for him.
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Sophandros  New Orleans Saints Fan R'Lyeh Member since Feb 2005 40256 posts

| re: What's the best sports book you've read? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:36 am to Tiger n Miami AU83)
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Gonna have to order this now. Did not even know it existed. I've read most of Conroy's books and most were written decades ago. Last book I read of his was over 10 years ago. He is my favorite southern author and "The Lord's of Discipline" is one of my favorite books of all time.
Ed Conroy, basketball coach at Tulane, is a cousin of Pat Conroy and coached at the Citadel prior to coming to Tulane. /csb
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Kracka  North Carolina Fan Laffy Taffy Member since Aug 2004 26991 posts

| re: What's the best sports book you've read? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:38 am to dutchtiger)
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John Grisham and his other book called Bleachers
I forgot about this one. I read that too and I loved it, mainly because I could relate to the book.
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Sophandros  New Orleans Saints Fan R'Lyeh Member since Feb 2005 40256 posts

| re: What's the best sports book you've read? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:38 am to LSU GrandDad)
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LSU GrandDad
What's painfully obvious from your post is that you didn't read Moneyball.
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brgfather129  Texas Tech Fan Austin, TX Member since Jul 2009 3943 posts

| re: What's the best sports book you've read? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:40 am to LSU GrandDad)
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what is painfully obvious to me is that people view Moneyball as some sort of revelation in MLB. billy bean did not invent statistical evaluation of players as he infers. and scouts are not an inferior way to evaluate talent as he infers. i get that oakland doesn't have enough money to do both but the teams that actually win pennants and stuff do both. as far as taking college pitchers over hi-school kids he was lying. that's right, oakland got lucky with some draft choices as their stud pitchers in years they actually excelled. lastly, as far as valueing outs over the small ball strategem of advancing runners people completely ignore that he is in the american league. any perceived advantage (backed up by his own statistical choices) of that goes away in the NL. a manager in a one run game in the 9th inning with a runner on first with no outs is a fool not to advance that runner. if he hasn't practiced bunting he's fricked. i would be much more impressed with a book written by tony larussa than billy bean. he doesn't own the market on statistical evaluation of players and never has. he propelled a few good years of success (based on lucky pitcher selection) into an expose' of "how he is smarter than all the other gm's" and making big bucks from it. good for him.
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| re: What's the best sports book you've read? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:41 am to Porter Osborne Jr)
The Glory of Their Times Ball Four Distant Replay The Unforgettable Season
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Baloo  LSU Fan Formerly MDGeaux Member since Sep 2003 41101 posts

| re: What's the best sports book you've read? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:45 am to Sophandros)
The Game by Ken Dryden Ball Four by Jim Bouton Those are still the gold standards for athlete memoirs. Next Time Let's Not East the Bones by Bill James Scorecasting Soccernomics How Soccer Explains the World Loose Balls Eight Men Out Crazy '08s Fantasyland The Blind Side
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Baloo  LSU Fan Formerly MDGeaux Member since Sep 2003 41101 posts

| re: What's the best sports book you've read? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:47 am to Baloo)
Oh, and my bible is Earl Weaver on Strategy.
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ProjectP2294  Indiana Fan NOLA Member since May 2007 23987 posts
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| re: What's the best sports book you've read? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:50 am to Sophandros)
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What's painfully obvious from your post is that you didn't read Moneyball
He gets his opinions from Joe Morgan.
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| re: What's the best sports book you've read? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:56 am to Porter Osborne Jr)
Breaks of the Game Summer of 49 Seven Seconds or Less Scorecasting How Soccer Explains the World Dream Team
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| re: What's the best sports book you've read? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 9:09 am to Sophandros)
really liked this series as a kid: 
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| re: What's the best sports book you've read? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 9:23 am to Porter Osborne Jr)
In and out of the rough John Daley
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BoardReader  Arkansas Fan Arkansas Member since Dec 2007 1788 posts

| re: What's the best sports book you've read? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 9:27 am to slackhouse)
Some very solid recommendations in here, some WTH ones. I like the history of sports, so titles like 'Let Me Tell You A Story' and 'When Pride Still Mattered' really resonate with me. If I'm looking for a fun read, the rollicking tales of wild man coaches (Season on the Brink, Bootlegger's Boy) really hit the spot. If you want an excellent book that will make you think about sports, I recommend 'Taboo: Why Black Athletes Dominate Sports and Why We Are Afraid to Talk About It' -- it's getting hard to find, but it raises real questions about the underlying assumptions involved in race, sports, and how we organize competition.
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