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DownshiftAndFloorIt
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re: It's time to ban dog deer hunting


Hell no I don't want these angry dog blasting bastards around my nice peaceful camp





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trident
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re: It's time to ban dog deer hunting


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So tired of this crap. It took us about 5 years to finally "convince" the neighbors down the road with 100 acres to stop running dogs every day all over the 3,000 or so acres around them, including our property. We had about 5 years of peace and good hunting and now this year a new crew of thugs have decided to dog hunt the area. Saturday's hunt was completely ruined.

I understand it is a tradition for some people, but in modern times where the vast majority of deer hunters still hunt, there is no realistic way dog hunters can practice their sport without affecting the hunting on neighboring properties, no matter the property size. All these 3 strike rules don't do shite and there is little to no way for game wardens to effectively enforce the laws without an outright ban.




Fact: As soon as deer season starts I dont see a freaking deer anymore!!!!!

BAN!!!!!!






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dpark
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re: It's time to ban dog deer hunting


LOL....Im with you on that





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Langston
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re: It's time to ban dog deer hunting


Hell, it is banned around here. Only place you could do it was Kisatchie a week or two a year and they banned it there too. I dont see the prob with having a designated time to do it. I couldnt believe people kept all them dogs to do it 2 weeks a year.





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INFIDEL
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I have the regular GPS collar without the shock rig. It works very well. You don't need it where I hunt though. The dogs have to cross a canal or highway to leave our place. The deer don't like


Again, seriously? Had dogs cross 4 lane highways and rivers with regularity and ease. Can't tell whether you're sugar coating this to try to paint dog hunters as more responsible they are. Maybe responsible isn't the word. Dogs are dogs and walkers will burn a deers arse up. Roads and water will not stop either and that's a fact.






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Slickback
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re: It's time to ban dog deer hunting


Please don't delete this thread before I get to read it. Damn new job.





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drakeT1217
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re: It's time to ban dog deer hunting


You really don't need to read it all. It's all the same

Let me sum it up for you

-Some think dog hunting should be banned totally.

-Some think we should tax dog hunters.

-Some shoot every dog they see.

-One guy has a neighbor with a dog that keeps him awake at night barking.

-A very small group think its great. They have large leases, also their dogs cant swim and are afraid of roads. Their dogs only get on other peoples property a small percentage of hunts (which is ok).

-dpark is pissed

-Some people hunt in basically a cageless pound.

-And something about a gps

-blah blah outlaws gon outlaw




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BFIV
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Wow... I thought this thread was finished last night! Here are some of my thoughts, observations, and a few facts concerning this argument, in no certain order:

In Virginia where I live, deer and other game animals are the property of the landowner. When that game animal leaves your property, you are no longer the owner. The other guy is. But just because you own the deer on your property, you are still required to abide by all Virginia game regulations. If you want to manage YOUR deer with a DMAP program, you have to abide by the regulations within that program.

In Virginia, a hunting dog (hound) has the right of way in the road. You can be charged for killing a hound in the road with your vehicle. A chihuahua is out of luck if you hit him in the road.

Deer doggin is outlawed in my portion of the state and has been banned for decades here. The only people deer dogging here are outlaws. Granted, there aren't that many of them, but none of these outlaw hunters drive around with dog kennels on their trucks. They just release a motley mix of cur dogs, Heinz 57's, and any dog they can lay hands on. They don't attempt to recatch these dogs. They turn em loose at night somewhere and leave the dogs to fend for themselves or for us landowners to have to shoot. These outlaws don't order $750.00 Runnin Walker pups from a reputable breeder in Boone, N.C. and then just turn em loose when they're grown. These guys just steal any dog they can catch or go to the pound and load up (for a small "adoption" fee) all the dogs they can afford and then turn em loose somewhere right before the season opens. They don't have collars on these dogs and all they do is drive around the backroads and listen for dogs running a deer. It isn't very hard to distinguish a Walker's bark from a Heinz 57.

If you are opposed to deer doggin, whether it's legal or not in your area, have you ever, or would you shoot a deer that was being chased by a dog? Or would you let the deer pass by and then shoot the dog? I know of a few hunters who are opposed to deer doggin, but have no qualms about shooting that 8 pointer in front of the dogs. These folks are hypocrites, imho.

The days of the large landowners are mostly over now. I like deer doggin and I like to still hunt. But I've got enough sense to know that deer doggin without problems only works when you've got enough land for your dogs to work without getting onto someone else's property. Hunting over a bait pile is illegal here, also. Even feeding deer or game is illegal starting about two weeks before hunting season. Downshift has taken a lot of heat for his stance. And I think some of yall have been unduly critical of him. He likes to dog hunt and he does it responsibly. Be careful what you wish for. You may get it. Deer doggin is banned here and so is putting out a pile of corn or a feeder. Something that seems ethical to you might not seem ethical to the next guy.






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AlxTgr
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re: It's time to ban dog deer hunting


I don't actually supply the deer. I allow them to be shot. Otoh downshift's general behavior may keep him deerless for a while





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Salmon
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In Virginia where I live, deer and other game animals are the property of the landowner. When that game animal leaves your property, you are no longer the owner.


thank you






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AlxTgr
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Holy crap. It took me three years to post that many words.





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Nodust
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A chihuahua is out of luck if you hit him in the road.


In more ways than one.






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angus1838
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In Virginia where I live, deer and other game animals are the property of the landowner. When that game animal leaves your property, you are no longer the owner. The other guy is

I need to look up the law in Alabama but if it reads like this I wish my neighbors would keep THEIR wild hogs and coyotes on THEIR side of the fence






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fishfighter
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My take, if you have the land, go for it. Fair game once the dogs cross the line. I used to hunt a club that was well over 15,000 ac. A club next to us had over 20,000 ac. We would swap dogs out once a week due to the dogs would cover all that land very easy. Each culb member had to have 1 hunting dog. If it didn't run, the member was fine $300. So one didn't bring crap out there. Over time, we did get away from walkers to smaller dogs due to running everything out the country.

Myself, I loved to do the drive. Killed many deer on the jump. Once that was done, I would catch the dogs and turn them loose an another spot.








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DownshiftAndFloorIt
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re: It's time to ban dog deer hunting


They just don't do it that often. If they do they're in a cane field owned by people we know personally. We just don't have problems.





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007mag
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people we know personally.
Here in lies the problem. People don't get to know their neighbors anymore. When someone does something that infringes on their tranquility instead of trying to come to an agreement where all can live together they'd rather outlaw the activity their neighbor enjoys as simple revenge. They don't like him or his kind so they wish to destroy what it is that brings him happiness.






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DownshiftAndFloorIt
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re: It's time to ban dog deer hunting


I agree with that, but I can't stand on that for this discussion.





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Hawgon
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Dog hunting wasn't much problem when everyone in rural areas knew each other and you pretty much had carte blanche to go where you wanted as long as you didn't leave gates open, cut fences, or bother anybody's stuff or cows. But when people in the suburbs and cities decided they wanted to start leasing places and the whole lease thing got started, people got awfully protective of "their" land and "their" deer.

I miss the old days when I was a kid and I could go everywhere I wanted without too much worry. But there is no denying, I've got a lot more deer on my place now than we did when I was a kid.

Things change for better and for worse.






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633tiger
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re: It's time to ban dog deer hunting


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DownshiftAndFloorIt


I have only skimmed through this thread so i'm not sure this has been covered.

Have you explained to these guys the type of terrain your hunting (swamp)?

Its not the piney woods or oak flats that i'm sure 99% of these guys are hunting. Where they drive there trucks or fancy side by sides 100yrds from there box and corn and walk in there slippers.

I would say 50% of all deer woods south of I10 in louisiana is not huntable without dogs.

I would also be willing to bet a paycheck that if you gave these guys a pair of hip boots and a shotgun, told them to walk due south on your lease and find a good tree to climb. they would be back at your house wanting to join you on your next chase before lunch.






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BFIV
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Good post. I remember those days fondly. Folks with money just started buyin up the land and all of a sudden the "good ole days" were over. The current generation will never know what that was like.





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