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re: Big Beer dresses up in craft brewers' clothing

Posted on 11/16/12 at 2:25 pm to
Posted by GeauxldMember
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Posted on 11/16/12 at 2:25 pm to
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Guess im responsible and not an alcoholic


I think I'm gonna go ahead and call bullshite...
Posted by F machine
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 11/16/12 at 2:54 pm to
So, does anyone know when Goose Island will be available pretty much anywhere? I know it's in New orleans right now. What about BR? I live in a really small town, so I'm hoping this will be at my local liquor store soon.
Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/16/12 at 2:55 pm to
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So, does anyone know when Goose Island will be available pretty much anywhere? I know it's in New orleans right now. What about BR? I live in a really small town, so I'm hoping this will be at my local liquor store soon.


The Cove in BR just got 3 on tap. But bottles won't get into the state until December at the earliest.
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 11/16/12 at 2:59 pm to
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The Cove in BR just got 3 on tap. But bottles won't get into the state until December at the earliest.


Honkers is in MS already.
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
8836 posts
Posted on 11/16/12 at 3:03 pm to
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Leinenkugel


I thought they were a craft brewery along the lines of an Abita or Spoetzl brewery?
Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/16/12 at 3:26 pm to
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I thought they were a craft brewery along the lines of an Abita or Spoetzl brewery?


Nope. Subsidiary of MillerCoors as part of the Tenth & Blake division with Blue Moon, Henry Weinhard, etc.
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
8836 posts
Posted on 11/16/12 at 4:22 pm to
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Nope. Subsidiary of MillerCoors as part of the Tenth & Blake division with Blue Moon, Henry Weinhard, etc.


Well, I'll be darn.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
Member since Aug 2004
15934 posts
Posted on 11/16/12 at 4:24 pm to
for a while I thought this is what Clown Shoes was and didnt want to try it because of that

glad its not, and I need to start checking them out more
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52748 posts
Posted on 11/16/12 at 4:31 pm to
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glad its not, and I need to start checking them out more


Clown Shoes and Brash all have excellent beers and i haven't had a bad one yet.

So far i've had

Brash Texas Exile Coffee porter
CS/Brash Flight of the Pimp
CS Ghenghis Pecan Porter
CS Muffin Top
CS Tramp Stamp
CS Hoppy Feet
CS Hoppy Feet 1.5
CS Eagle Claw Fist
CS Chocolate Sumbrero
CS Blaecorn Unidragon

Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
16255 posts
Posted on 11/16/12 at 10:23 pm to
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So far i've had Brash Texas Exile Coffee porter CS/Brash Flight of the Pimp CS Ghenghis Pecan Porter CS Muffin Top CS Tramp Stamp CS Hoppy Feet CS Hoppy Feet 1.5 CS Eagle Claw Fist CS Chocolate Sumbrero CS Blaecorn Unidragon


Yep. Had Porcine Unidragon the other day. It may be the best Clown Shoes I've had. Fantastic.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73674 posts
Posted on 11/17/12 at 12:45 am to
The attacks in this thread seem to be aimed at the big three while giving the distributors a pass. There is a lot of big talk about how people boycott the big 3 and their products because of their bullying tactics, but you patronize the hit man carrying out the tactics.

You can fault AB for throwing Bud out there and strong arming a distributor, then think you are punishing Bud by giving more business to the distributor. The distributor feels no pain and has no reason to change his ways. His supplier is happy, his buyer is happy.

Some appear to have separated the two and justified the boycott against the Big 3 because in reality you can go without their product(s). However, if you cut off the distributors you are left with just a handful of brews from the small "independent" distributors. This is too much of a hit to take.

So, many seem content to sit high on their horse and preach about how they cannot support a system that hurts the small guy, but will not shut them out completely as long as they get the benefits they want from the system.
This post was edited on 11/17/12 at 1:24 am
Posted by LSUEnvy
Hou via Lake Chas
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 11/17/12 at 1:20 am to
I feel your pain. I buy from a small shop that carries St Arnold. In my town not sure what else would make an impact
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 11/17/12 at 1:30 am to
I'm sure some will respond that the system is broken or that the distributors are at the mercy of the brewers. Reality is that the distributors like it that way. You can boycott the big distributors and still have plenty of stuff to drink, just wouldn't be enjoyable.

If people were truly principled this is what they would do, in your situation they would boycott the St. Arnold's for the greater good of craft brewing.
This post was edited on 11/17/12 at 1:32 am
Posted by rutiger
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Member since Jun 2007
21103 posts
Posted on 11/17/12 at 8:02 am to
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Some appear to have separated the two and justified the boycott against the Big 3 because in reality you can go without their product(s). However, if you cut off the distributors you are left with just a handful of brews from the small "independent" distributors. This is too much of a hit to take.


How would you suggest boycotting the distributors? In a state like louisiana you can buy direct from the brewery, so i cant buy beer anymore? I agree the system is antiquated, but how do you change the system?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73674 posts
Posted on 11/17/12 at 1:09 pm to
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How would you suggest boycotting the distributors? In a state like louisiana you can buy direct from the brewery, so i cant buy beer anymore? I agree the system is antiquated, but how do you change the system?


There are beers that are delivered by distributors other than crown/mockler/brbeer, stick to those beers and those beers only. It will get your point across I am sure.


There aren't but a handful that are distributed, you would be missing out on a lot of beers. I know it is a question we have asked pretty often at beer tasting.
This post was edited on 11/17/12 at 1:19 pm
Posted by charlesmartinmike
North Alabama
Member since Mar 2009
317 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 4:54 am to
Bunch of pretentious ****s.
Words on a bottle have become more important than the taste of the beer.
Posted by rutiger
purgatory
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 11/19/12 at 7:36 am to
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Posted by charlesmartinmike Bunch of pretentious ****s. Words on a bottle have become more important than the taste of the beer.


Actually, the beer sucks too a-hole.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73674 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 7:47 am to
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Actually, the beer sucks too


Hard to say that since you haven't tried them.


Fwiw, I don't think it is pretentious.
Posted by Fratastic423
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5990 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 8:38 am to
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fightin tigers


I understand what you are saying about the distributors in theory. But in practice I don't think it works at all. Mainly due to the pressure (business wise) put on new breweries. Take Mockler for example. If I wanted to support Tin Roof or Parish by buying their beer, I have to buy it from Mockler. Unfortunately the breweries have to make money to survive regardless of the quality of their beer. So new breweries get approached by a distributor who has access to a bunch of markets which means more exposure for the little guys. So you are in a catch 22 as a consumer and as a small brewery.

Does Abita still self distribute or did they join up with someone else?
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101914 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 8:45 am to
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Does Abita still self distribute or did they join up with someone else?


Crescent Crown in BR.

I don't think anyone is allowed to self distribute in LA. They can in TX.
This post was edited on 11/19/12 at 8:46 am
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