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re: Texas Rangers will let Josh Hamilton hit the open market before making an offer

Posted on 10/9/12 at 4:05 pm to
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 4:05 pm to
Yeah, I like Napoli but he is a free agent. It depends on the market. He made $9.4 million this season and if he's willing to take a steep pay cut, then he could be a part of the team. 2 years, $14 million? I'd prefer to only pay him around $5 million per year, but you might have to go to $7. If someone wants to give him a big deal, you have to let him go.
Posted by Buck Magnum
Springdale
Member since Dec 2003
11612 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 4:06 pm to
Do we get Soto back? Not that its a good thing if he hangs around.
This post was edited on 10/9/12 at 4:07 pm
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
28254 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 5:21 pm to
quote:

I'd think Boston is his landing spot but who knows.


Don't see it. They're probably going to go into rebuild mode. If they make a 'big signing' this year I think it'll be Swisher. Not saying they'll land him but by all accounts he's a good clubhouse presence and will probably be around $12-15 million over 3-4 years. If Hamilton gets the $140-million over 7 some are suggesting, then Swisher is easily the answer. He's a step below Hamilton in production, but you're getting 150 games of .360OBP/25HR/90RBI ball for less than half the money and half the years.

That being said, I think Swisher ends up out west.
Posted by DEANintheYAY
LEFT COAST
Member since Jan 2008
31975 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 5:27 pm to
I would be one happy camper if Napoli goes elsewhere.

I wonder how much money Hamilton cost himself with all his issues this year and his antics down the stretch?
Posted by GoldenSombrero
Member since Sep 2010
2651 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 5:36 pm to
No way TX attempts to resign him. Radio in Dallas have been saying it all summer and I thought they were crazy. After he missed 5 games during a pennant race for too much caffeine and dry eyes I think he sealed his fate.

I just can't see Nolan wanting to put up with all the baggage.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19307 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 5:41 pm to
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Do we get Soto back? Not that its a good thing if he hangs around


I believe we have Soto for one more year. Agreed, not a good thing but Napoli hasn't shown that a long-term deal is in the club's best interests.
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
28254 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 5:50 pm to
quote:

I believe we have Soto for one more year.


Yup. He's arbitration 3.

quote:

Napoli hasn't shown that a long-term deal is in the club's best interests.




If he takes a serious pay-cut he would probably be worth it. We're talking $5-million and 3 years at the VERY most though.
Posted by Papa Tigah
TIGER ISLAND, LA
Member since Sep 2007
18376 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 5:53 pm to
Wish the Dodgers had a chance.
Posted by BigBoyTiger
Cleveland
Member since Aug 2005
9578 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 6:12 pm to
As a die hard Rangers fan, I want this guy gone. He used to play hard now he doesn't, his body language sucks, he doesn't really respect his manager, misses games for weird reasons in the middle of a pennant race, etc. Good riddance.

I would keep Nap if it's, as the previous poster stated something like 3 for $15 million or so.

We need to break some of these younger guys in and see how they do.
Posted by Ambassador
West Monroe, LA
Member since Jan 2004
1352 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 6:35 pm to
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he doesn't really respect his manager


Why is this? Serious question. I had a friend state that the Rangers needed to change managers. I do not know how you move the manager that led us to two world series. The friend feels that they would have won it all if not for Washington.

Your thoughts?
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
87341 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 6:50 pm to
This latest announcement is the team's way of controlling any PR fall out from letting him walk.

Posted by yurintroubl
Dallas, Tx.
Member since Apr 2008
30160 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 6:59 pm to
quote:

I would keep Nap if it's, as the previous poster stated something like 3 for $15 million or so.


I could see them going higher than that... but definitely a pay cut from where he is now.

quote:

We need to break some of these younger guys in and see how they do.


Profar is going to be a stud.


ETA:

quote:


Why is this? Serious question. I had a friend state that the Rangers needed to change managers. I do not know how you move the manager that led us to two world series. The friend feels that they would have won it all if not for Washington.

Your thoughts?


I like Wash. There's no way they even get to those Series without him. He's good at juggling all the personalities and the FO likes him. At first - it seemed like some of the stuff Wash was doing was wildly erratic... but he was just learning how to deal with his guys and put them in a position to succeed. You won't see nearly as many people questioning in-game moves and general personnel decisions as you would've a few years ago.
This post was edited on 10/9/12 at 7:02 pm
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58035 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 7:00 pm to
Wash makes the occasional curious move but I think every manager does this at times.

IMO its stupid to blame Wash for losing the WS both years, when its his agressive style that got them there in the first place. This is esspecially true of last year since they were down to the last out and the pen simply collapsed.
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
16408 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 7:42 pm to
Smart thing to do. Any offers JH gets will have to be loaded with contingencies for falling off the wagon. I just don't see the big spenders throwing Cecil like numbers at him without it. I expect him to stay when all is said and done.
Posted by floridatigah
FL
Member since Oct 2004
10395 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 7:53 pm to
With the new TV deal coming into effect in 2014 and essentially giving teams an extra $25 million to spend, I think you'll see contracts continue to really rise. Don't think Hamilton gets Fielder's deal (Fielder despite being fat is ridiculously durable and was only 28) but he will get close to 200 IMO and the Rangers won't come close IMO.

And for those that think Napoli is signing anywhere for 5 million/year.....come on.
Posted by reb13
Member since May 2010
10905 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 9:40 pm to
Atlanta bound.









One could only hope.
Posted by WarhawkTiger6
Team BB03©
Member since Jun 2009
12292 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 12:15 am to
quote:

I wonder how much money Hamilton cost himself with all his issues this year and his antics down the stretch?


Not much. A team will overpay regardless.
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 12:31 am to
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Hi Josh, I'm Theo Epstein and welcome to the North Side



You realize how shitty he would be playing day games hungover all the time,right?
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71326 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 12:36 am to
I doubt Boston gets into long term contracts again.

I could see them overspending for the ability to have players for less years.
Posted by wish i was tebow
The Golf Board
Member since Feb 2009
46121 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 12:38 am to
I guess he will be a cub Red Sox or Yankee soon
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