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Would one of you mind telling me where the Tiger mascot came from?
Posted on 12/7/10 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 12/7/10 at 3:44 pm
Anybody know the history on that one? tia
Posted on 12/7/10 at 3:45 pm to Mayhaw Jelly
War for Southern Independence. The Louisiana Fighting Tigers.
Posted on 12/7/10 at 3:46 pm to TN Bhoy
Woah, I had no idea. Thanks a lot.
Posted on 12/7/10 at 3:46 pm to TN Bhoy
More like the War against Northern Aggression.
Posted on 12/7/10 at 3:46 pm to TN Bhoy
Because of the huge tiger population in Louisiana
Posted on 12/7/10 at 3:47 pm to Mayhaw Jelly
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Tiger is the largest living member of the cat family. It has a graceful build. The reddish yellow coat with black stripes gives it a royal look. Its ears are black on the outside and each of them has a prominent white spot on it. The scientific name of tiger is 'Panthera tigris'. The origin of the cat family from what we know today is Siberia. From there, they migrated down south as the climate became colder. Tigers are found in Siberia, Manchuria and the Asian continent. In Asia, India and Malaysia are the two prominent countries where tigers live. The Indian tigers, the Royal Bengal tigers are the most graceful animals found in Sundarban in Bengal.In India we had over forty thousand tigers in the beginning of the 20th century. Today it is very sad to note that the statistics are much lower. The reasons for tigers becoming an endangered species are uncontrolled felling of trees resulting in the shrinkage of the habitat of the tiger, decrease of preys, increase of poaching for its beautiful skin.
The tiger lives in varied habitats: open jungles, humid evergreen forests and mango grove swamps. Its diet consists mainly of deer, antelopes, gaurs and wild Aggies.
This post was edited on 12/7/10 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 12/7/10 at 3:50 pm to WILDTURKEYisgood
They were a bad of scalawags, ruffins, displaced pirates, drukards, and other un savory bastards that were widely feared by both sides, and known to drink all night and fight all day. If they got bored they would raid our own supplies etc, (future marines) so they tried to keep them in action as much as possible or they would riad and pillage our own people or fight among themselves
Posted on 12/7/10 at 3:50 pm to Mayhaw Jelly
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Anybody know the history on that one? tia
Washington Artillery.
Formed in New Orleans in 1838.
Their insignia:
Both the Louisiana Tigers of Wheat’s Battalion and the Washington Artillery first gained fame at the Battle of First Manassas on July 21, 1861. Major David French Boyd, first president of LSU after the war, had fought with the Louisiana troops in Virginia and knew the reputation of both the Tiger Rifles and the Washington Artillery.
Thus when LSU football teams entered the gridiron battlefields in their fourth year of intercollegiate competition, they tagged themselves as the “Tigers.” In 1955 LSU’s Fourth-Quarter Ball Club expanded the name “Tigers” into the current nickname, “Fighting Tigers.”
Washington Artillery
Posted on 12/7/10 at 3:53 pm to JPLSU1981
jp that is not what he was asking about
basically LSUs war history >>a&m
basically LSUs war history >>a&m
Posted on 12/7/10 at 3:55 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Here you geaux. Really cool story. Also dont forget taht the flying tigers of WW11, and the great John Wayne movie, are from LSU.
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Posted on 12/7/10 at 3:56 pm to JPLSU1981
i think he is flirting with you JPL.
Posted on 12/7/10 at 4:01 pm to CarRamrod
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basically LSUs war history >>a&m
Cool story behind the tiger as your mascot. I always thought it was another generic choice.
Posted on 12/7/10 at 4:09 pm to CarRamrod
The truth is that they were scared shitless of the Louisiana Tigers. Some of my ancestors helped command this regiment at times, or tried too and the letters they wrote back of some of the funniest damn things you have ever heard.
Paraphrasing, "after spending two weeks breaking up repeated drunkeness, fighting and lawlessness etc, looking forward to more reasonable situation like charging union cannon positions outnummered 20 to one.
"We have convinced the troops that the yankees stole all the remaining rum, and have hidden it behind their lines thus ensuring us of a quick and complete victory, Howeverm once victory is secured, and the lack of veracity of our story is discovered I do fear for our safety."
From Harpers Weekly 1862 (Yankee view point)Complete lie btw.
ABOUT FINISHED.
GENERAL McCLELLAN telegraphs that the "Fourth Michigan have about finished the Louisiana Tigers." We fancy we shall have some more dispatches of this tenor.
These Southern bravoes, who call themselves "Tigers," and "Lions," and "Grave-diggers," and "Yankee-slayers;" who carry black flags, and refuse quarter to unarmed men; who dig up the corpses of our dead soldiers, and send their bones home to their lady loves as trophies—these creatures, who are a speaking illustration of the brutalizing effect of the institutions among which they have been reared, and whose savage instincts would appall the most ferocious native of Dahomey or Patagonia—these fellows can never withstand the onset of a Christian soldiery. They are capable. of assassinating a Union man, or of whipping a black woman to death; but when it comes to standing up in a fair fight against Northern men, in any thing like equal numbers, they run like hares. Brutality and manhood can no more coexist in the same individual than oil and water can mingle.
We are not sorry to hear that the "Louisiana Tigers" are "about finished." It is about time that some other of these Southern regiments, which have desolated the South and done their best to destroy the nation, were "about finished" too.
Posted on 12/7/10 at 4:13 pm to papasmurf1269
"We have convinced the troops that the yankees stole all the remaining rum, and have hidden it behind their lines thus ensuring us of a quick and complete victory, Howeverm once victory is secured, and the lack of veracity of our story is discovered I do fear for our safety."
That is pretty damn funny.
That is pretty damn funny.
Posted on 12/7/10 at 4:15 pm to aggiegirl2005
From Civil War magaizine
Of all the units that took the field at the First Battle of Manassas in July 1861, none exceeded the flair and intensity of the 1st Louisiana Special Battalion, 'Wheat's Tigers.' Raised from the dregs of New Orleans, the Tigers, who were primarily Irish immigrant dockworkers, were as tough and resolute as their combative commander, Major Roberdeau Wheat.
Chatham Roberdeau Wheat, born on April 9, 1826, in Alexandria, Va., studied law at the University of Nashville and then served in the 1st Tennessee Cavalry as a lieutenant during the Mexican War. After the war, he moved to New Orleans, where he began his career as a filibuster–or mercenary–participating in several expeditions to Cuba, Mexico, Nicaragua and Italy, and rising to the rank of general in both the Mexican and Italian armies.
In 1861, when his native South declared its independence, Wheat rushed to New Orleans to raise a regiment to defend the newly proclaimed Confederate States of America. Re-establishing his old recruiting station at 64 St. Charles Street, near the docks, he attracted three already forming companies, Captain Robert Harris' 'Walker Guards,' Captain Alexander White's 'Tiger Rifles' and Captain Henry Gardner's 'Delta Rangers,' to his banner and formed a fourth on his own, the 'Old Dominion Guards.' The men of these companies were largely Irish immigrant dockworkers or ship hands who inhabited the southern edge of the city, near the Mississippi River. One observer expressed a widely held view that they were the 'lowest scum of the lower Mississippi…adventurous wharf rats, thieves, and outcasts…and bad characters generally.'
At least some of the men, especially those in Harris' Walker Guards, were also former filibusters who had served with Wheat in Nicaragua back in 1857. They mustered into service in their old filibuster uniforms–off-white cotton drill trousers, white canvas leggings, red flannel battle shirts and broad-brimmed, low-crowned straw hats. Once enlisted, the men also wrote provocative slogans–such as 'Lincoln's Life or a Tiger's Death,' 'Tiger by Nature' or 'Tiger in Search of Abe'–on their hat bands.
Wheat next worked on outfitting his nascent command in the Zouave fashion. Zouaves were originally Algerian units that served in the French army and were considered among the elite fighting forces in the world. The Algerians wore their traditional, flamboyant uniforms during their French service, inspiring a sartorial style that was duplicated by Northern and Southern regiments during the Civil War. To uniform his Tigers as Zouaves, Wheat enlisted the support of A. Keene Richards, a wealthy New Orleans businessman and one of Wheat's former filibuster financiers. The men were issued red wool fezzes with blue tassels; loose-fitting red woolen, placketed battle shirts; red woolen sashes; dark-blue wool, waist-length Zouave jackets with red trim; blue-and-white striped sailor's socks; blue-and-white striped cotton pantaloons cut in the baggy Zouave fashion; white canvas leggings and black leather grieves.
Wheat uniformed himself in a dark-blue, double-breasted frock coat and trousers and looked much like a field grade officer in the U.S. Army. He also sported a buff general's sash to commemorate his filibuster commission in the Mexican and Italian armies. For headgear, he wore a red, French-style kepi bedecked with gold lace to denote his rank.
By early April 1861, all the New Orleans units that intended to volunteer for Confederate service gathered at the Metairie racetrack, two miles northwest of the waterfront. There, Wheat's men were issued Model 1841 'Mississippi' rifles that had been seized from the U.S. arsenal at Baton Rouge in January 1861 and large bowie-style knives. With their new weapons and accouterments, mostly Mexican War surplus, the Tigers were quickly introduced to military drill and discipline by Wheat. Once drill was over, the Tigers drank, played cards or fought, often disrupting camp.
On May 13, Wheat was ordered to move his rowdy companies to Camp Moore, in northern Louisiana. Wheat hoped to attract four more companies to his command to form a full regiment, but he was unsuccessful. His rough Zouaves actually repelled potential allies. One man wrote of Wheat's Tigers: 'I got my first glimpse at Wheat's Battalion from New Orleans. They were all Irish and were dressed in Zouave dress, and were familiarly known as Louisiana Tigers, and tigers they were too in human form. I was actually afraid of them, afraid I would meet them somewhere in camp and that they would do to me like they did to Tom Lane of my company; knock me down and stamp me half to death.'
Of all the units that took the field at the First Battle of Manassas in July 1861, none exceeded the flair and intensity of the 1st Louisiana Special Battalion, 'Wheat's Tigers.' Raised from the dregs of New Orleans, the Tigers, who were primarily Irish immigrant dockworkers, were as tough and resolute as their combative commander, Major Roberdeau Wheat.
Chatham Roberdeau Wheat, born on April 9, 1826, in Alexandria, Va., studied law at the University of Nashville and then served in the 1st Tennessee Cavalry as a lieutenant during the Mexican War. After the war, he moved to New Orleans, where he began his career as a filibuster–or mercenary–participating in several expeditions to Cuba, Mexico, Nicaragua and Italy, and rising to the rank of general in both the Mexican and Italian armies.
In 1861, when his native South declared its independence, Wheat rushed to New Orleans to raise a regiment to defend the newly proclaimed Confederate States of America. Re-establishing his old recruiting station at 64 St. Charles Street, near the docks, he attracted three already forming companies, Captain Robert Harris' 'Walker Guards,' Captain Alexander White's 'Tiger Rifles' and Captain Henry Gardner's 'Delta Rangers,' to his banner and formed a fourth on his own, the 'Old Dominion Guards.' The men of these companies were largely Irish immigrant dockworkers or ship hands who inhabited the southern edge of the city, near the Mississippi River. One observer expressed a widely held view that they were the 'lowest scum of the lower Mississippi…adventurous wharf rats, thieves, and outcasts…and bad characters generally.'
At least some of the men, especially those in Harris' Walker Guards, were also former filibusters who had served with Wheat in Nicaragua back in 1857. They mustered into service in their old filibuster uniforms–off-white cotton drill trousers, white canvas leggings, red flannel battle shirts and broad-brimmed, low-crowned straw hats. Once enlisted, the men also wrote provocative slogans–such as 'Lincoln's Life or a Tiger's Death,' 'Tiger by Nature' or 'Tiger in Search of Abe'–on their hat bands.
Wheat next worked on outfitting his nascent command in the Zouave fashion. Zouaves were originally Algerian units that served in the French army and were considered among the elite fighting forces in the world. The Algerians wore their traditional, flamboyant uniforms during their French service, inspiring a sartorial style that was duplicated by Northern and Southern regiments during the Civil War. To uniform his Tigers as Zouaves, Wheat enlisted the support of A. Keene Richards, a wealthy New Orleans businessman and one of Wheat's former filibuster financiers. The men were issued red wool fezzes with blue tassels; loose-fitting red woolen, placketed battle shirts; red woolen sashes; dark-blue wool, waist-length Zouave jackets with red trim; blue-and-white striped sailor's socks; blue-and-white striped cotton pantaloons cut in the baggy Zouave fashion; white canvas leggings and black leather grieves.
Wheat uniformed himself in a dark-blue, double-breasted frock coat and trousers and looked much like a field grade officer in the U.S. Army. He also sported a buff general's sash to commemorate his filibuster commission in the Mexican and Italian armies. For headgear, he wore a red, French-style kepi bedecked with gold lace to denote his rank.
By early April 1861, all the New Orleans units that intended to volunteer for Confederate service gathered at the Metairie racetrack, two miles northwest of the waterfront. There, Wheat's men were issued Model 1841 'Mississippi' rifles that had been seized from the U.S. arsenal at Baton Rouge in January 1861 and large bowie-style knives. With their new weapons and accouterments, mostly Mexican War surplus, the Tigers were quickly introduced to military drill and discipline by Wheat. Once drill was over, the Tigers drank, played cards or fought, often disrupting camp.
On May 13, Wheat was ordered to move his rowdy companies to Camp Moore, in northern Louisiana. Wheat hoped to attract four more companies to his command to form a full regiment, but he was unsuccessful. His rough Zouaves actually repelled potential allies. One man wrote of Wheat's Tigers: 'I got my first glimpse at Wheat's Battalion from New Orleans. They were all Irish and were dressed in Zouave dress, and were familiarly known as Louisiana Tigers, and tigers they were too in human form. I was actually afraid of them, afraid I would meet them somewhere in camp and that they would do to me like they did to Tom Lane of my company; knock me down and stamp me half to death.'
Posted on 12/7/10 at 4:51 pm to TutHillTiger
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They were a bad of scalawags, ruffins, displaced pirates, drukards, and other un savory bastards that were widely feared by both sides, and known to drink all night and fight all day. If they got bored they would raid our own supplies etc, (future marines) so they tried to keep them in action as much as possible or they would riad and pillage our own people or fight among themselves
This discribes the civil war fighting Tigers almost as much as it describes us today...
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or they would riad and pillage our own people or fight among themselves
Posted on 12/7/10 at 4:51 pm to JPLSU1981
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The tiger lives in varied habitats: open jungles, humid evergreen forests and mango grove swamps. Its diet consists mainly of deer, antelopes, gaurs and wild Aggies.
Posted on 12/7/10 at 4:52 pm to TutHillTiger
Except that Wheat's Battalion weren't the first Tigers from Louisiana.
Also while Claire Chennault was raised in Louisiana and went to ROTC at LSU, the Flying Tigers were a name given to the unit by the Empress of China. The Tiger represents the acme of fierceness in China, and she was impressed with how Chennault's unti was holding their own against overwhelming Japanese forces.
Those are shark's teeth on the planes, not tiger teeth.
Also while Claire Chennault was raised in Louisiana and went to ROTC at LSU, the Flying Tigers were a name given to the unit by the Empress of China. The Tiger represents the acme of fierceness in China, and she was impressed with how Chennault's unti was holding their own against overwhelming Japanese forces.
Those are shark's teeth on the planes, not tiger teeth.
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