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re: Miles: QB situation not settled
Posted on 3/2/09 at 9:51 am to LSUBCSCHAMPS11
Posted on 3/2/09 at 9:51 am to LSUBCSCHAMPS11
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Put in the one that played great in the bowl game, and made us look like a top 15 team, atleast.
Playing an ACC schedule, we would have been a top-15 team last year.
The difference between J.L. and J.J., is J.L. played an SEC schedule and J.J. played Arkansas and an ACC schedule in our bowl game.
Does anyone see the difference?
This post was edited on 3/2/09 at 9:53 am
Posted on 3/2/09 at 10:05 am to josh336
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please don't compare CM to JL.
why not? Because it is a good comparison?
another good comparison is with mathew stafford...a guy who lee just had a better freshman season than
Posted on 3/2/09 at 10:09 am to Bad Cat
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The difference between J.L. and J.J., is J.L. played an SEC schedule and J.J. played Arkansas and an ACC schedule in our bowl game.
yea and Jarett Lee sucked against them(he sucked against a Sun Belt Team for three quarters). Your justifying all of Lee weakness just because we play in the SEC and they were exposed there. Why would we put him back in after he showed he couldnt take even the weakest of the SEC that cleanly? I mean, this doesnt make any sense. To say, No to the quarteback that lead us to are only win over an AP ranked team. I dont see how your saying 7 pick sixes and inconsistent QB in the strength of the SEC, is better than 6 TD's and 1 int vs weaker SEC opponents and a damn strong ACC team(who beat UGA, who slaughter us thanks to Jarett Lee)
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Does anyone see the difference?
Yea JL sucked and looked lost, while JJ looked great with lots of promise.
Posted on 3/2/09 at 10:10 am to Northwestern tiger
Any coach who would announce his starting QB at this stage of the year, with the only options being 2 sophomores (one a RS) who had limited playing time last season and a true freshman, should be fired for stupidity.
Posted on 3/2/09 at 10:14 am to LSUfan4444
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another good comparison is with mathew stafford...a guy who lee just had a better freshman season than
don't bring logic to this conversation
Posted on 3/2/09 at 10:25 am to Phil2012
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As usual, this board is full of racists punks
who is this directed at?
Posted on 3/2/09 at 10:26 am to LSUBCSCHAMPS11
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Your justifying all of Lee weakness just because we play in the SEC and they were exposed there.
Lee's inexperience was exposed, not a lack of talent. Lee may not have what it takes mentally to excell at QB, but it is too early to make that decision. That is unless you are a clueless RANTard.
J.J. maybe a true QB phenom, who can play years above his experience level, but that also is too early to tell.
The spring and summer camps will tell the story who earns the starting QB spot, not last year's preformances for two very inexperienced QBs. The competition will and should be wide open.
In the end, game day performance will determine who winds up the starter by midseason.
quote:What the hell are you talking about?
As usual, this board is full of racists punks...
Can you be anymore vague and baseless?
This post was edited on 3/2/09 at 10:42 am
Posted on 3/2/09 at 10:38 am to Bad Cat
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don't bring logic to this conversation
Agreed. Logic is never appreciated on here so don't bother. Its a battle you'll never win.
Posted on 3/2/09 at 10:49 am to nycajun
I'm pretty new here but I've read a lot of the posts on this topic. The following is my opinion for which I'm entitled. I could be wrong as a football bat or I could be a right as rain. It's still my opinion so here goes:
2008 was a hard year the for the LSU QB situation. I felt bad for Lee as he began to be boo'd due to his performance but I don't think any freshmen QB thinks he couldn't start for the school he was going to. Last year Lee looked lost at times and he showed promise at times as most freshmen QB's do especially in the SEC. The problem is that he looked lost more than he showed promise. Lee's biggest challenge won't be regaining confidence in himself or shaking off 2008. Throwing 6 interceptions that were returned for TD's or missing wide open WR's or making bad decisions in 2008 won't hinder Lee in 2009. What will hinder him is the fact that his teammates completely lost confidence in him. That's going to be the biggest thing for him to overcome. It's natural that people cheer for the guy on the bench but as the season wore on, you could see the players around Lee just not having any confidence in him. I even suspect that Crowton lost some confidence in him. There's a reason that Lee had the comeback performance in the Auburn game. Hatch got hurt so the team rallied around Lee and he came through. The problem is that once he became the starter, he continued to make the same mistakes and didn't show much improvement. It was at that point that the team started losing confidence in him. Don't think for one minute that after 4 int's returned for TD's, the defense didn't approach games feeling like they were already down by a TD. There was very little communication between the WR's and Lee on the sidelines and sometimes it just appeared that they simply didn't want to talk to him.
Lee has ability otherwise he wouldn't be at LSU. Things like staring at WR's or throwing into coverage can be corrected. He can't correct lost confidence. Lee will need to regain the confidence in himself as well as the confidence of the players around him. I don't know if that can be regained especially when you have another QB that the team seemed to have tons of confidence in.
It's the right thing to do for Miles to give all the QB's a fair shake at the starting role but I think Miles has an idea of who will be the starter. JJ will enter the competition with the advantage of knowing that the team has confidence in him to lead them. Lee will enter the competition feeling like he has something to prove not only to himself but to his teammates. Time will tell but my money will be on JJ being the starter. Winning back lost team confidence is such a huge uphill battle to fight.
2008 was a hard year the for the LSU QB situation. I felt bad for Lee as he began to be boo'd due to his performance but I don't think any freshmen QB thinks he couldn't start for the school he was going to. Last year Lee looked lost at times and he showed promise at times as most freshmen QB's do especially in the SEC. The problem is that he looked lost more than he showed promise. Lee's biggest challenge won't be regaining confidence in himself or shaking off 2008. Throwing 6 interceptions that were returned for TD's or missing wide open WR's or making bad decisions in 2008 won't hinder Lee in 2009. What will hinder him is the fact that his teammates completely lost confidence in him. That's going to be the biggest thing for him to overcome. It's natural that people cheer for the guy on the bench but as the season wore on, you could see the players around Lee just not having any confidence in him. I even suspect that Crowton lost some confidence in him. There's a reason that Lee had the comeback performance in the Auburn game. Hatch got hurt so the team rallied around Lee and he came through. The problem is that once he became the starter, he continued to make the same mistakes and didn't show much improvement. It was at that point that the team started losing confidence in him. Don't think for one minute that after 4 int's returned for TD's, the defense didn't approach games feeling like they were already down by a TD. There was very little communication between the WR's and Lee on the sidelines and sometimes it just appeared that they simply didn't want to talk to him.
Lee has ability otherwise he wouldn't be at LSU. Things like staring at WR's or throwing into coverage can be corrected. He can't correct lost confidence. Lee will need to regain the confidence in himself as well as the confidence of the players around him. I don't know if that can be regained especially when you have another QB that the team seemed to have tons of confidence in.
It's the right thing to do for Miles to give all the QB's a fair shake at the starting role but I think Miles has an idea of who will be the starter. JJ will enter the competition with the advantage of knowing that the team has confidence in him to lead them. Lee will enter the competition feeling like he has something to prove not only to himself but to his teammates. Time will tell but my money will be on JJ being the starter. Winning back lost team confidence is such a huge uphill battle to fight.
This post was edited on 3/2/09 at 10:52 am
Posted on 3/2/09 at 10:53 am to PurpleKnight88
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What will hinder him is the fact that his teammates completely lost confidence in him.
mail meet head
Posted on 3/2/09 at 10:54 am to PurpleKnight88
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PurpleKnight88
that was a DAMN good post
Posted on 3/2/09 at 11:10 am to TheDoc
only prob I have with your post it shows a lack of leadership.
BL, DB, RD, JM, CM are all upperclassmen. Its not carved in stone that QB has to be leader on off, especially if he is a freshman. I saw JL get more comfortable with TT , that was encourageing.
BL, DB, RD, JM, CM are all upperclassmen. Its not carved in stone that QB has to be leader on off, especially if he is a freshman. I saw JL get more comfortable with TT , that was encourageing.
Posted on 3/2/09 at 11:45 am to Northwestern tiger
If Lee starts at QB I may throw my remote right out of the window.
Posted on 3/2/09 at 11:59 am to cubsgrace
why does this not surprise me.?
typical rantard reply .
typical rantard reply .
Posted on 3/2/09 at 12:03 pm to hotrod
Who is selected as the starting QBs at the spring game will be interesting.
Posted on 3/2/09 at 12:04 pm to cubsgrace
Why do so many posters want to make this a personal decision?
Don't we all want a hihgly effective QB regardless of his identity or past performance?
These are all very young, inexperienced QB's whose upsides are unknown. JJ and RS have a LOT of work to do on THEIR mechanics.
And, you can make a sound argument that mental errors by JL that were so frustrating, often are more easily correctable than a lack of talent.
Lee could actually show a LOT more progress than JJ.
Let em play and amy a REAL good QB emerge...
Don't we all want a hihgly effective QB regardless of his identity or past performance?
These are all very young, inexperienced QB's whose upsides are unknown. JJ and RS have a LOT of work to do on THEIR mechanics.
And, you can make a sound argument that mental errors by JL that were so frustrating, often are more easily correctable than a lack of talent.
Lee could actually show a LOT more progress than JJ.
Let em play and amy a REAL good QB emerge...
Posted on 3/2/09 at 12:06 pm to tojo
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Doc if you are a Dujke fan what difference does it make to you who starts. You ought to just shut up, and leave this alone.
Posted on 3/2/09 at 12:09 pm to cubsgrace
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If Lee starts at QB I may throw my remote right out of the window.
I was hoping you would throw your TV out the window. Immature college geeks, don't you love'm
Posted on 3/2/09 at 1:21 pm to cubsgrace
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If Lee starts at QB I will be playing the Jarrett Lee drinking game.
fixed for me
Posted on 3/2/09 at 1:27 pm to Northwestern tiger
It really is solved 99.99% chance it is JJ.
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