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re: Miles: QB situation not settled

Posted on 3/2/09 at 1:32 pm to
Posted by LSUBCSCHAMPS11
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Posted on 3/2/09 at 1:32 pm to
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It really is solved 99.99% chance it is JJ.


Not according to Les Miles.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 3/2/09 at 1:48 pm to
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Not according to Les Miles.


did you think flynn was going to start over jamarcus when miles said it would be a open comp?

well, it's a lot like that.
Posted by LSUBCSCHAMPS11
Member since Jan 2009
2003 posts
Posted on 3/2/09 at 1:51 pm to
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did you think flynn was going to start over jamarcus when miles said it would be a open comp?

well, it's a lot like that.


I know. If anyone is going to get the job over jefferson, its going to be shepard(I may get flamed for this, oh well)
Posted by Bad Cat
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/2/09 at 1:56 pm to
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did you think flynn was going to start over jamarcus when miles said it would be a open comp?


This idiot is equating J.J. to J.R.--
This post was edited on 3/2/09 at 1:58 pm
Posted by hotrod
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/2/09 at 2:06 pm to
the diff between logical LSU fans and rantards is night and day.... and it couldn't possibly be anymore evident than the posts in this thread.

some of you people seem to have it all figured out..... for JJ's sake I hope he doesn't dissapoint.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 3/2/09 at 2:07 pm to
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for the TEAMS sake I hope he doesn't dissapoint.


fixed it
Posted by hotrod
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Posted on 3/2/09 at 2:20 pm to
WRONG .. you geeks won't rip the team.,yall do the same as you do to JL.

Luckily these guys have more fortitude than to worry about what some of you dumbasses have to say neg about them
This post was edited on 3/2/09 at 2:23 pm
Posted by TheDoc
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 3/2/09 at 3:11 pm to
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WRONG .. you geeks won't rip the team.,yall do the same as you do to JL.


what?
Posted by specs1
Member since Dec 2005
10015 posts
Posted on 3/2/09 at 3:30 pm to
Throw my remote out the window...

just one of the stupid comments in this thread.

I'll be pulling for LSU regardless of whom the QB may end up being.

That said, if I were placing a bet which I'm not, I'd bet Lee takes the most starter snaps next season.

I think Jefferson is a good player and RS has loads of potential. But Lee ran the the team through a very adverse stretch. He came up 4-3 in games he started and finished. He stepped in at Auburn and led a great comeback. He led the comeback at SC, and presided over the greatest comeback in LSU history against Troy. He was forced to throw far more than any freshman in the history of LSU due to our D not being very good last year. Furthermore, Lee was not coddled like freshman. They gave him the entire playbook and forced him to throw many passes that most senior qb's don't even throw. Realize also that if the perfectly thrown TD pass in the Bama game is caught, LSU runs away w/ that thing. Yeah I know you Lee detractors are going to mention the pick6. Well that was picked at Bama's 46 yard line and the return was like 54 yards. Just so you guys know, it's not against the rules to make a tackle in this situation.

Also, you may or may not know that Lee was the 4th highest rated freshman qb in the country prior to his injury and the highest rated in a BCS conference.

JJ is a good player and will contribute. But, he is 1 and 1 in games he started and finished. The loss was to a 3-8 SEC cellar dweller. His passes are not nearly as crisp or accurate as Lee's.

BTW, on the play that Lee was injured on, in the face of immense pressure and really inadequate blocking, Lee fired a pass across the middle to get that drive started.

I don't care who the QB is as I support LSU. But for those of you who have written off JL, you are way off base.

This post was edited on 3/2/09 at 3:32 pm
Posted by SECBengal
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Posted on 3/2/09 at 3:39 pm to
Posted by hotrod
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/2/09 at 3:48 pm to
chalk another one up for the logical LSU fans.

Good post. my thoughts exactly.
Posted by Bad Cat
Painted Post, NY
Member since Jan 2004
12091 posts
Posted on 3/2/09 at 3:48 pm to
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those of you who have written off JL, you are way off base.


Clueless RANTards are way off base--I agree!
Posted by TigerFred
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Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 3/2/09 at 3:52 pm to
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Clueless RANTards


Yes you are.
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 3/2/09 at 3:57 pm to
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I'm pretty new here but I've read a lot of the posts on this topic. The following is my opinion for which I'm entitled. I could be wrong as a football bat or I could be a right as rain. It's still my opinion so here goes:

2008 was a hard year the for the LSU QB situation. I felt bad for Lee as he began to be boo'd due to his performance but I don't think any freshmen QB thinks he couldn't start for the school he was going to. Last year Lee looked lost at times and he showed promise at times as most freshmen QB's do especially in the SEC. The problem is that he looked lost more than he showed promise. Lee's biggest challenge won't be regaining confidence in himself or shaking off 2008. Throwing 6 interceptions that were returned for TD's or missing wide open WR's or making bad decisions in 2008 won't hinder Lee in 2009. What will hinder him is the fact that his teammates completely lost confidence in him. That's going to be the biggest thing for him to overcome. It's natural that people cheer for the guy on the bench but as the season wore on, you could see the players around Lee just not having any confidence in him. I even suspect that Crowton lost some confidence in him. There's a reason that Lee had the comeback performance in the Auburn game. Hatch got hurt so the team rallied around Lee and he came through. The problem is that once he became the starter, he continued to make the same mistakes and didn't show much improvement. It was at that point that the team started losing confidence in him. Don't think for one minute that after 4 int's returned for TD's, the defense didn't approach games feeling like they were already down by a TD. There was very little communication between the WR's and Lee on the sidelines and sometimes it just appeared that they simply didn't want to talk to him.

Lee has ability otherwise he wouldn't be at LSU. Things like staring at WR's or throwing into coverage can be corrected. He can't correct lost confidence. Lee will need to regain the confidence in himself as well as the confidence of the players around him. I don't know if that can be regained especially when you have another QB that the team seemed to have tons of confidence in.

It's the right thing to do for Miles to give all the QB's a fair shake at the starting role but I think Miles has an idea of who will be the starter. JJ will enter the competition with the advantage of knowing that the team has confidence in him to lead them. Lee will enter the competition feeling like he has something to prove not only to himself but to his teammates. Time will tell but my money will be on JJ being the starter. Winning back lost team confidence is such a huge uphill battle to fight.

This ranks #2 currently on my "Greatest 1st Post Ever" list.

#1 was some guy whose 1st post was something to the effect of " I have never posted here before, normally I only lurk and read, but decided I needed to post in this thread to tell you to STFU."
Posted by jigralizer
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Member since Mar 2008
523 posts
Posted on 3/2/09 at 4:13 pm to
So what happens when Jefferson tears his ACL during spring practice? Or Shepard takes 2 bullets to the chest following an altercation at a local laundromat?

Alot can happen over the next few months, so don't throw Lee under the bus just yet
Posted by TiegerTim
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
2986 posts
Posted on 3/2/09 at 4:15 pm to
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I'll be pulling for LSU regardless of whom the QB may end up being.

so will i..
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That said, if I were placing a bet which I'm not, I'd bet Lee takes the most starter snaps next season.
if you were takin bets, which you're not, i'd bet you were wrong...
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Realize also that if the perfectly thrown TD pass in the Bama game is caught, LSU runs away w/ that thing.

we are not going to play the if game are we???? If JL hadn't thrown that... well you know the rest....
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Also, you may or may not know that Lee was the 4th highest rated freshman qb in the country prior to his injury and the highest rated in a BCS conference.
Oh, yes, he is a record setting freshman... for consecutive games with a pic six....
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I don't care who the QB is as I support LSU.
Again, i agree with this..
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But for those of you who have written off JL, you are way off base.
and he did show flashes. he's got the arm, it's between the ears that he struggles with. the disturbing thing for me is that JL didn't show any improvement from week to week.. he was basicly the same QB from the first start till his injury. i saw lots of improvement in JJ from the Arky game to the bowl game, when he was taking the snaps with the #1 unit....
Posted by ITtigah
Right around the corner
Member since Nov 2007
1081 posts
Posted on 3/2/09 at 4:16 pm to
quote:

Jarred Lee has a much a chance to win the starting QB spot as anyone on the team



Such as T-Bob Hebert, Rahim Alem, or anyone else who does not play QB
Posted by TiegerTim
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
2986 posts
Posted on 3/2/09 at 4:19 pm to
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This idiot is equating J.J. to J.R

no he's not... he's equating the situation with JR and MF to the situation with JJ and JL... big difference...
Clueless posters don't you love em....
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
59469 posts
Posted on 3/2/09 at 4:23 pm to
quote:

did you think flynn was going to start over jamarcus when miles said it would be a open comp?

well, it's a lot like that.




are you serious?
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12507 posts
Posted on 3/2/09 at 4:28 pm to
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As usual, this board is full of racists punks that don't know shite about shinola
Look, just because someone is silly enough to assume the starter is set in stone in March and insists that it is impossible for Lee to beat out Jefferson does not necessarily make them racist. They could just be naive enough to believe that every time one player outperforms another for even the briefest moment that it means that player is forever and always automatically better than the other guy and that it cannot possibly ever change.

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