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re: Miles: QB situation not settled
Posted on 3/1/09 at 6:53 pm to ForeLSU
Posted on 3/1/09 at 6:53 pm to ForeLSU
quote:
Miles knows that an open competition is the best way to push these guys in order to make sure the QB position is as strong as it can be next year. He stated recently that having an apparent competition between Russell and Flynn (even though he knew Russell would be the starter) was a big benefit for the team.
Bingo! For recruiting... and more importantly, lining up the best players as starters/backups... you don't annoint anyone as a starter in the offseason. When you can recruit great athletes you let them compete every day, on the field, off the field, in the classroom, and in all other respects within the program.
Once the coaches decide who starts, then the importance of their support for a player who makes mistakes comes into play.
As long as you know you're the guy going into the next game, that's all you need to know as a player.
After last year in particular, it's not like Miles has shown a propensity to yank players for game mistakes.
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Posted on 3/1/09 at 6:59 pm to Hot Carl
I think JL's progress needs to be made in reading defenses and understanding what to do. If he's comfortable with the field, then he will be more athletic because he can anticipate and react faster. He doesn't need to run, he needs to be able to avoid pressure and know where to throw the ball.
If everyone progresses at the same level I would expect JJ to start and JL to be the backup. I think Shepard will play the same role regardless and lineup at QB 4-8 snaps a game, mostly running. But will also move to receiver, RB, etc. Not exactly a 2 QB system.
If everyone progresses at the same level I would expect JJ to start and JL to be the backup. I think Shepard will play the same role regardless and lineup at QB 4-8 snaps a game, mostly running. But will also move to receiver, RB, etc. Not exactly a 2 QB system.
Posted on 3/1/09 at 7:14 pm to Tigersicles
quote:
I think JL's progress needs to be made in reading defenses and understanding what to do.
Definitely that, but I think he most needs to grow some balls/moxie/confidence. It might be that he can't. But if he can, I think he can be a very, very good college QB. But Jefferson still might wind up being too good to beat out, though.
Posted on 3/1/09 at 7:15 pm to Hot Carl
I agree with you 100%.
Posted on 3/1/09 at 8:14 pm to Northwestern tiger
this is a no brainer!!!!! jefferson WILL start. miles will never play a freshman unless he has to. just like last year. or wait lets go back 2 years russell was the starter matthew was the back and the "super star" mr. ryan perilloux was 3rd string.
thank you have a great day!
thank you have a great day!
Posted on 3/1/09 at 8:43 pm to Northwestern tiger
quote:
but the fact remains LSU might need two distinct offenses to accommodate all four quarterbacks.
SAY WHAT?!?!?! ALL FOUR OF THEM IN THE PICTURE?
and to hear Miles saying this door is so wide open, shepard must be doing something pretty outstanding tomake that big of an impression.
Les Miles is a master of the english language in how he answers questions even when the AD is waving his hands in the back of the room telling Miles DONT ANSWER THE QUESTION!
Posted on 3/1/09 at 8:44 pm to LSUBCSCHAMPS11
shouldn't the door be wide open? we are months away
Posted on 3/1/09 at 9:57 pm to tojo
There is no question but that Miles can definitely keep a secret.
Posted on 3/1/09 at 10:00 pm to LSUBCSCHAMPS11
quote:
SAY WHAT?!?!?! ALL FOUR OF THEM IN THE PICTURE?
Yup.
Posted on 3/1/09 at 10:09 pm to tojo
quote:
In the same situation, JJ may have done worse than Lee.
Total bullshite. Your usual inept, entirely unprovable line. Jefferson was placed in the same situation as Lee. He replaced Lee after it became painfully clear that a change was needed. And Jefferson performed better. And he would have led LSU to a better season record if he had been the starter all along.
This won't change.
Posted on 3/1/09 at 11:48 pm to Dalosaqy
quote:
Total bullshite. Your usual inept, entirely unprovable line. Jefferson was placed in the same situation as Lee. He replaced Lee after it became painfully clear that a change was needed. And Jefferson performed better. And he would have led LSU to a better season record if he had been the starter all along.
you need to learn what total BS is.
B/c you just typed it.
JJ WAS NOT placed in same siutation as JLEE
Proof.... 3-8 ark team in a FUKING MEANINGLESS last game of season and mighty Gtech in peach bowl... yeah thats the same as AU, MSU, Fla, USC, bama, UGa. good call
He replaced Lee when JL went down with injury vs OM.
Performed better? geees.
Did you watch the second half of either of the games he started?
Your last sentence sums this overly STUPID/FALSE post up.
we avged 25pts per game with JL under center... wonder what we gave up defensively????
Ive said on here before and ill say it again... LSU Def in 2008 was FAR more responsible for the 5 losses than JL ever was... and to think JJ would have been the diff maker for the season is just not so.... But if it makes you feel better to blame last season on a redshirt freshman qb then have it.
This post was edited on 3/1/09 at 11:54 pm
Posted on 3/1/09 at 11:58 pm to bosoxjo13
quote:
shouldn't the door be wide open? we are months away
Precisely. Anyone "knowing" at this point would be lying or just ignorant. Way too early, it will be and should be an open competition.
Posted on 3/2/09 at 12:10 am to kyledicentra
Who is Miles trying to con.
JJ is the starter. And if he decides to go with another freshman to start the games again while we know we have a very capable QB on the side who demolished Georgia Tech in the Bowl game I will piss my pants.
JJ is the starter. And if he decides to go with another freshman to start the games again while we know we have a very capable QB on the side who demolished Georgia Tech in the Bowl game I will piss my pants.
Posted on 3/2/09 at 12:14 am to RogerTheShrubber
miles is doing the right thing here. why not open the competition for field general up? a little competition for the job should only make each guy work that much harder. each guy should benefit from it. miles will have the best guy under center come august.
Posted on 3/2/09 at 12:16 am to hotrod
quote:
He replaced Lee when JL went down with injury vs OM.
He replaced Lee and led the team to a respectable end to an otherwise disappointing season --even after Lee was healthy to play. To lay the blame on the defense for this overall marginal year is just plain blind.
I stand by Jefferson as the right choice for Miles to make at the time and the right QB to get the chance to start next year.
Posted on 3/2/09 at 2:16 am to Hot Carl
quote:I'm not sure exactly how you use those terms, but the way I understand them they are the least of Lee's problems. No matter how bad things were going for him at any point in a game, the kid just kept going at it and trying to make plays (and usually succeeding). Anybody who can endure starts like he did against Auburn and Georgia and Troy and still come back to make plays later in the game definitely has what I consider "confidence" and "moxie."
Definitely that, but I think he most needs to grow some balls/moxie/confidence.
If anything, his problem might be having too much confidence in his arm's ability to make plays. If that were his only problem, it would pretty likely to improve a lot (most QBs with that overconfidence issue do get a lot better at it as they mature). Unfortunately, he does seem to also have problems reading defenses and checking down his progressions. Not as much trouble as a lot of people here seem to think (e.g., those who insist that he has never once thrown to a second receiver), but he definitely seemed to have problems adjusting to Div. 1A speed and defenses.
Posted on 3/2/09 at 2:20 am to Dalosaqy
quote:Jefferson didn't even play in the first several games, so the only thing we as distant observers can know with confidence is that whatever situations Lee and Jefferson were put placed in, they were not placed in the same ones. So your statement is (unusually, for most Rant posts) truly disprovable.
Jefferson was placed in the same situation as Lee.
Posted on 3/2/09 at 2:24 am to Dalosaqy
quote:What was respectable about losing to 3-8 Arkansas? Are you sure you were watching the LSU Tigers?
He replaced Lee and led the team to a respectable end to an otherwise disappointing season
quote:Yes, because a defense that gives up points at a record pace could obviously never be a factor in losing games.
To lay the blame on the defense for this overall marginal year is just plain blind.
Posted on 3/2/09 at 6:01 am to King Joey
I still can't figure out why anyone would choose to start lee over jefferson...
lee just seemed like he was playing scared.
jefferson seemed like a leader.
lee just seemed like he was playing scared.
jefferson seemed like a leader.
Posted on 3/2/09 at 6:18 am to tojo
quote:
Are you the coach ? If Miles would have thought so he would have played JJ all season.
Miles is the head coach, But Crowton is the OC. JJ has the best ability to run crowtons offense. I can't see Lee turning into a running type QB.
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