re: Electric cars save gas. Don't ask how long the tires last....

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A set of 4 tires on a current stock model S is $3000.

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Tire rack for 2022 Model S shows a range of $1000-1800 for four tires

Buddy in Ohio has had to get new tires every 18 months since owning his Tesla. The weight kills the tires. His Pacifica every 3..4 years but that tesla x eats them. He has been remote since covid... But now he's remote and 30 miles each way... So the 18 months would be a luxury

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The one thing I hate almost as much as a pedophile is a liar

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You didn't read op.

Don't care. Not going to drive one. My 2001 Wrangler and 2018 F-150 gonna be my last.

Where the rubber meets the road.

I guess some fools believed they would have zero maintenance on a vehicle just because it has an electric engine.

With the weight they should be running load range D or E tires but that would require truck tires…

Will they burn on my fire pile the same as gas tires?

This whole thread is full of misinformation.

First that the weight of EVs is so much higher than comparable ICE cars it wears out tires designed for them at a crazy rate.



Like for like EVs aren't that much heavier than comparable ICE cars. The Model S is within 10% of the weight of a 5 series. Pickups are the one area where the weight difference is significant.


People referring to the link in the OP saying EV tires have super soft compounds are off the mark.

This is the rundown of an OE tire for the Model 3, the tire has a UTQG treadwear rating of 400 (frankly if you don't know what that is you probably shouldn't be attempting to discuss tires in an objective fashion) and a tread life warranty of 45,000 miles which is limited to 6 years.




In comparison this is the OE tire for my DD, it has a UTQG treadwear of 240 because it has a truly soft (for a street tire) compound. I get about 15k out of rears and a little over 20k from the fronts. I do drive it like I stole it.




People have also discussed the performance of EVs and how this allows the driver to torture the tire. The issue with that is how an ICE car and EV differ in the way they transmit torque to the wheels. An ICE can not launch from idle (quickly) to get the most acceleration from an ICE you have to launch well above idle which results in drivetrain and tire torture. To get the quickest launch you have to balance things like tire speed and tire slip both of which means carving lots of rubber off the tires. EVs damn near dead hook on a good surface. Go watch a Model S Plaid at the drag strip on YT and notice how little tire spin they get. Just a couple of chirps and they are off. Electric motors are far better at launching a car with limited amounts of drivetrain and tire abuse.


Can you destroy a set of tires in 8-10k? Absolutely. But with the OE tires on a Model 3 you should get more miles than an OE set on a 3 Series as long as both cars are mechanically in good condition and you drive them similarly because the OE tires on the BMW will have softer compounds* with a much lower UTQG treadwear rating.



* I used softer compound as a shortcut, modern road car tire wear isn't just about compound durometer by a long shot but those things are all taken into account in the tradwear portion of the UTQG. I should also point out that UTQG is not a standardized number with an ISO or similar testing routine so you can compare them directly within a manufacturer but there is no guarantee they will compare reasonably across different manufacturers. I have used almost exclusively Michelin, Continental, Pirelli, and Yokohama for street tires over the last 30 years and find their UTQG wear ratings to be pretty similar IME.