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Posted on 7/1/12 at 2:22 pm to Marty McFrat
If we go the defense route then the only two college guys I would be interested in would be Dantonio and Strong.
If not those two then I would prefer an NFL guy with an outgoing personality and not a Willy Robinson type who just sees X's and O's.
If not those two then I would prefer an NFL guy with an outgoing personality and not a Willy Robinson type who just sees X's and O's.
Posted on 7/1/12 at 3:08 pm to TheCheshireHog
quote:
NFL guy with an outgoing personality
this is the most important part. If they can make it to the NFL their Xs and Os will be fine but a lot of times it seems they don't have the personality to recruit in college.
Posted on 7/1/12 at 4:18 pm to oklahogjr
quote:
this is the most important part. If they can make it to the NFL their Xs and Os will be fine but a lot of times it seems they don't have the personality to recruit in college.
I just don't watch enough NFL these days to have a grasp on who that would be.
Posted on 7/1/12 at 4:46 pm to TheCheshireHog
Personally i'm hoping the seahawks melt down and carroll is looking for a job but that's not even realistic for the most part.
Posted on 7/1/12 at 4:47 pm to oklahogjr
quote:Why the hell would you want that douche in Fayetteville?
Personally i'm hoping the seahawks melt down and carroll is looking for a job but that's not even realistic for the most part.
Posted on 7/1/12 at 4:54 pm to Drewbie
quote:
Why the hell would you want that douche in Fayetteville?
Because like it or not he wins games. That is my measuring stick for the next coach.
Posted on 7/1/12 at 4:58 pm to oklahogjr
quote:
Personally i'm hoping the seahawks melt down and carroll is looking for a job
Flynn for super bowl MVP!
Posted on 7/1/12 at 5:06 pm to oklahogjr
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Because like it or not he wins games. That is my measuring stick for the next coach.
Mine as well. I didn't think Petrino should be fired and I don't care if our next coach is a prick. I just want to win
Posted on 7/1/12 at 5:08 pm to TheCheshireHog
What irritates me the most is there WILL be a huge dip. I think we win 10 games this year but 2013 and maybe even 2014 could really really blow no matter who the coach is.
That wouldn't have happened under Petrino.
That wouldn't have happened under Petrino.
This post was edited on 7/1/12 at 5:09 pm
Posted on 7/1/12 at 5:10 pm to woopiginaustin
quote:
What irritates me the most is there WILL be a huge dip. I think we win 10 games this year but 2013 and maybe even 2014 could really really blow no matter who the coach is.
All depends on who is hired as HC.
Posted on 7/1/12 at 5:41 pm to Mizzou4ever
The problem in hiring a defense first guy at HC and leaving the Offensive identity to a top notch OC is that the top notch OC will be leaving in a couple years to run his own program.
We don't want a revolving door of OC's and implementing new offenses every couple of seasons. I want a HC that will be here for a loooong time, the type of guy that will bring in Jr. High and HS coaches for free seminars and teach his philosophies, his basic systems, basic terminology and have those implemented into the peewee and Jr. high football levels across the state and neighboring recruiting bases.
In Arkansas Jerrel Williams made Springdale a football powerhouse without having elite athletes. I think much of it is because his offense and defense was literally the first thing Springdale kids learned in peewee football, then in Jr. High, and when they got to HS there wasn't a whole lot of basics to teach. There was a lot of pride there in that community with their football, it spawned First Baptist's obsession with it which became Shiloh Christian, and they emphasized football and brought in Gus a few years after the school started football and BOOM! Here we are.
Jerrel Williams did in his city what JFB tried to do across the state. I remember running the triple option exclusively in Jr. High in the early 90's. Arkansas football loves Gus because he was a renaissance man along with Ronnie Peacock at Greenwood and somewhat with Barry Lunney at Southside. They were the firsts to have success with a wide open passing game that forced other coaches to change.
I want a guy that can convince coaches that teaching their 8 year olds the Razorback way that it will give them an advantage when they are 18. I want free peewee camps so coaches can bring the kids to Fayetteville and let them run on the turf, see the facilities, dream the big dream, play in the HPER, run around campus, put on a Cardinal & White jersey, play in the big game, and cement a love for the Hogs and a desire to be a part of it when they become a 5.7 3star recruit, or even a 4star, or a 5 star, or a trumpet player, or a chemistry major, or a whatever they want to be, but that love for the state, the university, the Hogs, that's the common bond.
OK there's my Updyke moment of the day. It's hot outside.
We don't want a revolving door of OC's and implementing new offenses every couple of seasons. I want a HC that will be here for a loooong time, the type of guy that will bring in Jr. High and HS coaches for free seminars and teach his philosophies, his basic systems, basic terminology and have those implemented into the peewee and Jr. high football levels across the state and neighboring recruiting bases.
In Arkansas Jerrel Williams made Springdale a football powerhouse without having elite athletes. I think much of it is because his offense and defense was literally the first thing Springdale kids learned in peewee football, then in Jr. High, and when they got to HS there wasn't a whole lot of basics to teach. There was a lot of pride there in that community with their football, it spawned First Baptist's obsession with it which became Shiloh Christian, and they emphasized football and brought in Gus a few years after the school started football and BOOM! Here we are.
Jerrel Williams did in his city what JFB tried to do across the state. I remember running the triple option exclusively in Jr. High in the early 90's. Arkansas football loves Gus because he was a renaissance man along with Ronnie Peacock at Greenwood and somewhat with Barry Lunney at Southside. They were the firsts to have success with a wide open passing game that forced other coaches to change.
I want a guy that can convince coaches that teaching their 8 year olds the Razorback way that it will give them an advantage when they are 18. I want free peewee camps so coaches can bring the kids to Fayetteville and let them run on the turf, see the facilities, dream the big dream, play in the HPER, run around campus, put on a Cardinal & White jersey, play in the big game, and cement a love for the Hogs and a desire to be a part of it when they become a 5.7 3star recruit, or even a 4star, or a 5 star, or a trumpet player, or a chemistry major, or a whatever they want to be, but that love for the state, the university, the Hogs, that's the common bond.
OK there's my Updyke moment of the day. It's hot outside.
Posted on 7/1/12 at 5:59 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
quote:we'd have the same problem with DCs if we hire a top notch Offensive guy and pay for a DC.
leaving the Offensive identity to a top notch OC is that the top notch OC will be leaving in a couple years to run his own program.
Posted on 7/1/12 at 6:03 pm to oklahogjr
Yeah, it's a pick your poison situation.
I think the Bama game was a perfect example of trying to outscheme athleticism and it backfiring. With Knile we have a completely different offensive team. We really needed Wingo to not be a bitch that game, but the whole team pissed their pants and got Tyler destroyed.
On D I'm not sure which is easier to do, recruit to cover scheme deficiences, or schemee to cover recruiting deficiencies.
I think the Bama game was a perfect example of trying to outscheme athleticism and it backfiring. With Knile we have a completely different offensive team. We really needed Wingo to not be a bitch that game, but the whole team pissed their pants and got Tyler destroyed.
On D I'm not sure which is easier to do, recruit to cover scheme deficiences, or schemee to cover recruiting deficiencies.
Posted on 7/1/12 at 6:08 pm to oklahogjr
I think as a fanbase we just can't imagine changing offensive philosophies every couple of years. We've basically been a revolving door of DC's for the last 14 years but have had a grand total of two guys calling plays for us since 1998. I doubt there is many schools in the country that can say that.
This post was edited on 7/1/12 at 6:18 pm
Posted on 7/1/12 at 6:47 pm to Crow Pie
Please don't flame in a coaching search thread. TIA. 
Posted on 7/1/12 at 6:48 pm to Crow Pie
Crow Pie, you need a positive male role model in your life.
a young crowpie
a young crowpie
This post was edited on 7/1/12 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 7/1/12 at 6:49 pm to oklahogjr
quote:He won games because he was at USC and that's arguably the easiest recruiting spot in the nation. I personally think he's overrated.
Because like it or not he wins games. That is my measuring stick for the next coach.
Posted on 7/1/12 at 7:08 pm to Drewbie
Something about Greg Roman intrigues me. I love the offense he ran at Stanford, and there is no doubt that the 49ers improved greatly on the offense this year. I'm just not sure how much of that is Roman and how much is Harbaugh. I also have no idea how he is as a recruiter. We simply MUST have a great recruiter at Arkansas in order to compete
Posted on 7/1/12 at 7:12 pm to DocHog
We already have great recruiters, we need an offensive minded guy right now because that's what we've recruited for.
We can't hire a guy like Patterson and expect to out-defense Bama and LSU. We need a guy like Petersen who can come in and utilize the tools we have at hand, and continue to build on our explosive offensive philosophy.
We can't hire a guy like Patterson and expect to out-defense Bama and LSU. We need a guy like Petersen who can come in and utilize the tools we have at hand, and continue to build on our explosive offensive philosophy.
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