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Posted on 7/1/12 at 11:19 am to TheCheshireHog
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No kidding? Man I can't stand Okie State but that still sucks no matter who it is.
yeah it's true. Eventually they worked out a deal but it took ALOT of time.
Posted on 7/1/12 at 11:46 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
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I think it's funny how Arkansas fans think since the hired Petrino last time from the NFL, this time they can hire another NFL coach like Gruden or Del Rio.
And there would be State fans that would be thinking the same thing if you were looking for a head coach? Right....
There are always going to be some fans shooting for the moon in coaching searches because they don't follow the sport as closely as others.
Posted on 7/1/12 at 11:48 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
I think its funny Bundy is soliciting any advice on coaching search expectations after his predictions during MSU's basketball coaching search.
Posted on 7/1/12 at 12:07 pm to Latarian
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I think its funny Bundy is soliciting any advice on coaching search expectations after his predictions during MSU's basketball coaching search.
I set my heights too high. I understand things better now. There is a lot more that goes into coaching searches than people think.
Posted on 7/1/12 at 12:53 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
If Long goes after Grobe or Bowden again then we should FIRE him immediately.
Posted on 7/1/12 at 12:55 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
Haven't read the whole thread, but don't know why Del Rio would be such a reach for Arky to get. Seems reasonable.
Posted on 7/1/12 at 12:55 pm to HawgAlude
I agree. This hire will determine his job
Posted on 7/1/12 at 12:58 pm to Mizzou4ever
Personally, I don't see why people are so enamored with Del Rio but maybe that's just me.
If we're going to go the NFL route then I would prefer someone with an offensive background first.
If we're going to go the NFL route then I would prefer someone with an offensive background first.
Posted on 7/1/12 at 12:59 pm to Marty McFrat
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I think it's funny how Arkansas fans think since the hired Petrino last time from the NFL, this time they can hire another NFL coach like Gruden or Del Rio.
Were you thinking 'no way they can hire an NFL coach' before we hired Petrino?
Maybe we can, maybe we can't... it won't be because of a money issue if we can't though.
You never know if you can hire somebody if you don't talk to them.
Posted on 7/1/12 at 1:01 pm to HawgAlude
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If Long goes after Grobe or Bowden again then we should FIRE him immediately.
totally true, but it seems that the entire $ituation has changed drastically from when HDN was around.
Posted on 7/1/12 at 1:01 pm to WonderWartHawg
Al was all over our bball coaching search thread last spring as well telling us that we would hire a mid major.
Posted on 7/1/12 at 1:06 pm to TheCheshireHog
I know things didn't work out in the long run for Del Rio in Jacksonville, but I think he is a pretty good coach. Definitely worth Arky pursuing. I understand the offensive side of the ball concern, but he brings a shitload of expertise and intensity to the defensive side. Something that shouldn't be overlooked, especially in the SEC.
Posted on 7/1/12 at 1:11 pm to Mizzou4ever
Oh I agree that defense is key in the SEC but for a school like Arkansas, in our recruiting area, we are always going to have trouble getting SEC caliber defensive players. Our best years in the SEC have always been fueled by explosive offensives. We just aren't capable of playing LSU/Bama ball which is to grind out the clock and protect the lead with a strong defense. It's just not going to happen unless we get an elite recruiter which is easier said than done.
Based off that I would just rather have an innovative offensive minded coach that understands the need for defense.
While Petrino is and probably always be my favorite head coach at Arkansas, his neglect for defense both in recruiting and practice still blows my mind at times.
Based off that I would just rather have an innovative offensive minded coach that understands the need for defense.
While Petrino is and probably always be my favorite head coach at Arkansas, his neglect for defense both in recruiting and practice still blows my mind at times.
Posted on 7/1/12 at 1:27 pm to TheCheshireHog
Del Rio could definitely coach up the defensive players to a more effective level. Also, with the right offensive coordinator, I think things would work out fine.
Don't underestimate kids on the defensive side of the ball wanting and willing to come play for a former NFL coach. Look at it as Petrino with a twist when it comes to recruiting.
Don't underestimate kids on the defensive side of the ball wanting and willing to come play for a former NFL coach. Look at it as Petrino with a twist when it comes to recruiting.
Posted on 7/1/12 at 1:35 pm to TheCheshireHog
Here is the catch to that though. If we hire the big name defensive coach it helps us to go outside of our area and recruit because it is a big name. If we win consistently then the high caliber offensive players won't want to go anywhere else. Petrino's two biggest on the field faults were his lack of ability to recruit high caliber athletes and not abandoning the willy robinson defense early enough.
Posted on 7/1/12 at 1:38 pm to oklahogjr
Very true. I just get nervous when I think about hiring a defensive minded head coach because I can't think of many outside of Saban that also have a high powered offense to go with it. And I would surmise that Saban's offense has more to do with getting the elite of the elite offensive players at RB/OL and not so much the system itself.
Posted on 7/1/12 at 1:49 pm to TheCheshireHog
I think it is easier to find a good OC than a good DC. However with that said Greg Roman or bust.
Posted on 7/1/12 at 1:55 pm to oklahogjr
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Greg Roman or bust
This post was edited on 7/1/12 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 7/1/12 at 1:57 pm to TheCheshireHog
With the right coaching staff that provides a good balance between offense and defense, along with a good recruiting strategy, I don't see why this would be a prob for Arky.
With the Del Rio name, he can get better defensive players. He can take care of that side of the ball. Hiring a strong offensive coordinator that knows how to attack different styles of defenses, I think would put Arky in good shape for the future. This is just my opinion though, an outsider. You guys of course have a much better pulse on your program than I do.
With the Del Rio name, he can get better defensive players. He can take care of that side of the ball. Hiring a strong offensive coordinator that knows how to attack different styles of defenses, I think would put Arky in good shape for the future. This is just my opinion though, an outsider. You guys of course have a much better pulse on your program than I do.
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