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re: Greetings my LSU friends!!!
Posted on 11/19/07 at 11:35 pm to WolverineFan
Posted on 11/19/07 at 11:35 pm to WolverineFan
Hello Wolverine Fan, Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours. As you've read above my post, Louisiana is "gumbo"--a mixture of everything in one pot. I'm new to this and not qualified to answer your quetions but it's free speech and will give my thoughts just the same. What defines a good coach? Sure there have been some hard fought, nail-biter games this year with LSU and the harder fought it seems the more penalties. And those unfortunate injuries and not just with LSU but other teams as well. You hope the injuries never happen cause it changes the course of things. In watching the LSU vs VT and LSU vs SC games, you saw the talent and we all like to see more of Williams and Scott as well. Can't answer those questions but you sound like a devoted fan or you would not be asking this board. Just keep in mind where Miles played in the beginning and although we are reaping the benefits of this unique (good) coach someone/something along the way guided and molded him to where he is today---respect for himself, his family, his team, his staff and his fans. Mama Catz (aka Mrs. Cats15)
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Posted on 11/19/07 at 11:44 pm to WolverineFan
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For instance, in the VT game, the Hokies wanted nothing to do with Keiland Williams. After that dominating game, he rarely saw any carries in the next few games. Why is that?
In the Kentucky game, Scott was ripping the Cats apart in the 1st half. He rarely saw the field the rest of the way. Why?
Wow ,
I am coming in late on this but apologize for all the rantards that flamed. These are the same questions we have been asking ourselves LITERALLY. I think personally that it is a little of both....yes Les can coach(32-5 doesn't happen by itself) , but the level of talent has pulled the team through QUITE often.
Posted on 11/20/07 at 1:21 am to genuineLSUtiger
Hes ours! You can keep saban 
Posted on 11/20/07 at 4:45 am to WolverineFan
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WolverineFan
Greetings my LSU friends!!!
Wow.
Don't know what I said to incite some of the comments.
While I don't exactly agree with all your points, there is nothing wrong with your thread starting post.
Try to ignore the children. Efforts are being made to contact thier parents to inform them of how thier kids are acting on the net.
Regarding Les...OURS!
Now there is this guy over in Alabama who might be looking to make a move soon.........
Posted on 11/20/07 at 4:48 am to WolverineFan
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Don't know what I said to incite some of the comments.
You didn't say anything dude, some of these jerks can't say "hello" w/out being a jerk or using profanity.
Posted on 11/20/07 at 5:08 am to BamaScoop
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You don't go 32-5 if you're not a good coach
"in the SEC"...just added that for you. Hell yes he is a good coach. He is better than Blow Shembechler who nover won the big one. that is pathetic. coached for 20 years and nvever won a NC. Bear won it 6 times in 24 years, how could you ever compare Blow to coach Bryant? You can't, so for all you yankee pukes, Miles is a better coach the BS already.
Very dissappointed in you BamaScoop. Totally classless. Thought better of you than that. Nobody was comparing Bo To Bear. No legit reason to bring any of that up.
Posted on 11/20/07 at 12:58 pm to jbs780
Coach Miles is a great coach. I really feel like he might stay but something could happen to change his mind. O'Keefe and Bertman are sticking their necks out with the comments they are making. Maybe he stays?
Posted on 11/20/07 at 1:02 pm to CajunT
Eh, give Scoop a break. He was defending our 'house'.
Posted on 11/20/07 at 1:08 pm to cats15
Miles likes to give the ball to his love child Hester to run. Scott,Williams, and Murphy have not earned love child status so they only get 3-4 carries a game.
Posted on 11/20/07 at 1:11 pm to WolverineFan
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i've never thought of him as a good coach.
What do you think about Appalachian State's coach?
Posted on 11/20/07 at 7:17 pm to Teacher
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Miles likes to give the ball to his love child Hester to run. Scott,Williams, and Murphy have not earned love child status so they only get 3-4 carries a game.
classless comment and not even on topic.
Posted on 11/20/07 at 7:32 pm to WolverineFan
wolverine ,is that another alias,you are a regular ranter ,arent u?
Posted on 11/20/07 at 8:56 pm to cats15
quote:because you asked the same questions they have. instead of replying "good question. i don't know", they respond like the ten year olds they really are.
Don't know what I said to incite some of the comments.
Posted on 11/20/07 at 9:03 pm to WolverineFan
quote:You have to excuse some of the fans they only read apart of your post.
Wow.
Don't know what I said to incite some of the comments.
I agree with one of the earlier post Miles surrounds himself with good coaches but it takes a good coach to hire good coaches. And he doesn't rush when making a hire he makes sure he has the right guy. He is a good coachPosted on 11/20/07 at 9:09 pm to Tokyeaux
As everyone says He is a CEO type coach. Play calling is fault/credit of OC and DC. Very goods recruiter, very well liked and trusted by high school coaches. Asst Coaches like him. He will help Pellini get a HC job. Runs a good program. Kids like respect him. Good with alumni. Has good kids. Is a goods quality person would be a great coach for you, and you guys are idiots if you don't take him. Acts looks goofy sometimes, open mouth a little bit every now and then when he would do better to be silent. Big deal. Keep everything together through Katrina, wins almost all games at home, and wins most all close games. Only two really bad loses Florida last year, Tenn year before.
Why don't you guys do the classy thing and get it over with now, offer him the job or do not and let him coach LSU in NC game. He was earned it, and we deserve it.
Why don't you guys do the classy thing and get it over with now, offer him the job or do not and let him coach LSU in NC game. He was earned it, and we deserve it.
Posted on 11/20/07 at 11:25 pm to WolverineFan
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Don't know what I said to incite some of the comments
I haven't read past this comment ... I'm an LSU fan and was wondering the same thing! Please excuse them ... they're still hungover from the last game ... most of us are really nice people!
Oh, and regarding CLM, he's terrible ... awful ... no way do you guys want him ... oh, and he looks terrible in blue!
Posted on 11/21/07 at 10:47 am to tiger91
One-in-five chance that Les becomes the new Michigan coach. Michigan AD is a real estate guy brought into the program to fix the athletic campus and the department's bucget. He has no clue what constitues a good coach (his T. Amaker hire comes to mind). He does know that his legacy will not be the buildings he builds but the football coach that gets picked.
Watch for him to lean heavily on others for guidence. And the history of M-football is that its three greatest and most revered coaches were not "Michigan-men," those being: Fielding Yost (Kansas), Fritz Crisler (Ohio Wesleyn), and Glenn E. (Bo) Schembechler (Miami of Ohio). What they were however, were young, firebrands that took hold of the program and molded it in their image (Fielding Yost in fact was first interviewed for the Ohio St. job, but they thought he was "too exhuberant").
Michigan does not need another caretaker coach (as Carr was), the Schembechler era is over, time for something new. Watch for an unexpected choice.
Watch for him to lean heavily on others for guidence. And the history of M-football is that its three greatest and most revered coaches were not "Michigan-men," those being: Fielding Yost (Kansas), Fritz Crisler (Ohio Wesleyn), and Glenn E. (Bo) Schembechler (Miami of Ohio). What they were however, were young, firebrands that took hold of the program and molded it in their image (Fielding Yost in fact was first interviewed for the Ohio St. job, but they thought he was "too exhuberant").
Michigan does not need another caretaker coach (as Carr was), the Schembechler era is over, time for something new. Watch for an unexpected choice.
Posted on 11/21/07 at 11:18 am to loopy
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Michigan does not need another caretaker coach (as Carr was), the Schembechler era is over, time for something new. Watch for an unexpected choice.
We're all hoping you blow the call and don't hire Les. I hope a few of you Michigan guys will stick around the rant after the whole coach thing blows over. It's nice to have outside opinions and new people to kick around because they aren't as good as we are.
Posted on 11/21/07 at 11:20 am to WolverineFan
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Make no mistake Tiger nation, if Carr has a say in the hiring, you'll probably keep Les Miles.
Let a coach whose lost like 6 straight to your ONE and only competition have influence in the next hire.
Sounds good to me!
Posted on 11/21/07 at 12:26 pm to lsusteve1
Just to be accurate, Carr is 6-7 vs. OSU. He was 5-1 before Jim Tressel arrived in Columbus and 1-6 since. Michigan lost the last 4 (not last six) to OSU. But, point taken Lloyd should not have much say in the selection he was an interim that somehow kept the job. It still amazes me that he was HC for 13 seasons.
Lloyd is loyal to his assistants, but he really does not pick them well. Greg Matteson was our DC and his strong opinions/personality got him a ticket to South Bend to coach with B. Davie. Now he is at Florida. Les has strong ideas and was a Bo favorite because he stirred the pot -- Bo liked strong assistants -- but Carr would have none of that and Les went to Ok St. Instead we get Lloyd's friends as assistants. Not one of his loyalist has succeeded outside the program. In fact Mike Deboard (Michigan OC) became the Central Michgan coach, failed, then they got Brian Kelly and he won big with the same guys. We got Mike Deboard back. Why?? He and Lloyd are buddies.
Jim Harbaugh is another example. Before he went to SD he wanted to come back to Michigan and coach the quareterbacks and maybe be OC. Carr said no. Deboard was his OC guy and our QC is Scott Loeffler, a third string QB from the past that Lloyd has taken under his wing. Suffice to say our talent while good never improves given the poor coaching they get day-in and day-out. Andy Moeller who player LB for Lloyd when he was DC at Michigan is now our OL coach??
Lloyd has been a great face of the program to the outside world, and the President likes that she is not answering questions about NCAA violations, he is a good administrator and will do well in the AD's office, he is a good recruiter, but during the week and on game day, it's all on the players and their native talent, because Lloyd can't help them.
Lloyd is loyal to his assistants, but he really does not pick them well. Greg Matteson was our DC and his strong opinions/personality got him a ticket to South Bend to coach with B. Davie. Now he is at Florida. Les has strong ideas and was a Bo favorite because he stirred the pot -- Bo liked strong assistants -- but Carr would have none of that and Les went to Ok St. Instead we get Lloyd's friends as assistants. Not one of his loyalist has succeeded outside the program. In fact Mike Deboard (Michigan OC) became the Central Michgan coach, failed, then they got Brian Kelly and he won big with the same guys. We got Mike Deboard back. Why?? He and Lloyd are buddies.
Jim Harbaugh is another example. Before he went to SD he wanted to come back to Michigan and coach the quareterbacks and maybe be OC. Carr said no. Deboard was his OC guy and our QC is Scott Loeffler, a third string QB from the past that Lloyd has taken under his wing. Suffice to say our talent while good never improves given the poor coaching they get day-in and day-out. Andy Moeller who player LB for Lloyd when he was DC at Michigan is now our OL coach??
Lloyd has been a great face of the program to the outside world, and the President likes that she is not answering questions about NCAA violations, he is a good administrator and will do well in the AD's office, he is a good recruiter, but during the week and on game day, it's all on the players and their native talent, because Lloyd can't help them.
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