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re: Coordinators and Position Coaches haven't been finalized

Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:45 am to
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:45 am to
That's more accurate than what you said. But both had started a game in the prior year, and Harris had significant game time. They both had 2 full spring trainings.

People act like it's so rare for sophomores to be good QB's. But I see them all across the country on TV, but excuses for the lack of progression for LSU qb's.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
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Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:46 am to
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Harris was fine until Alabama, everyone said he had improved and was going to do well. Then he shite the bed and threw a bad INT after the half which killed LSU


So many ways to go with this.

Harris completed less than 10 passes and threw for under 100 yards in 3 of the first 7 games before alabama. Handing the ball off to fournette for 7 games font make him "fine"

The only defense with a pulse that Harris played before Alabama was florida.

You must have forgotten to address the first 3 names in that post for some reason.
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:47 am to
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Because making a change to make a change is just dumb, you better bring in the right guy and that guy is Herman.


What if LSU is making a change because they have had the "right guy" lined up for many months now?
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:48 am to
Harris started the Auburn game and then saw what 3 plays the rest of the year?

Harris saw a little action before that game but not much. I like Harris so I am biased on him, I think next year he takes a big step in his development.
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:48 am to
you had 2 weeks to design some semblance of a gameplan against Bama, I'm not saying they should have ompletely changed their identity for the game, but frick everyone knew going in you couldn't just hand it to leonard right into the teeth of that D.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:49 am to
Months now? Wouldn't that have undermined Les when he was undefeated?


Herman »»» Jimbo, bring in Herman and LSU wins it all next year.
Posted by RuLSU
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:49 am to
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Frentz has done well recruiting all 3/4* guys.

Isn't that the point?

Kirk Ferentz has won a lot of games at Iowa with inferior talent. He does it by teaching the players not to beat themselves. They play disciplined on defense.

Offensively, Iowa has been a team that plays safe and conservative. The difference is that they utilize efficiency in the passing game to keep balance. If LSU ran the kind of offense Iowa (F*ING IOWA!) does, I swear they'd be winning a lot more games.
This post was edited on 11/28/15 at 9:51 am
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:51 am to
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Because making a change to make a change is just dumb,


1. That's not what the discussion is. The discussion is the fact that you don't want miles gone. Your first choice for the coach at Lsu next year is Les miles. So it doesn't matter if the change is for the sake of change, or if there is a plan in place.

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you better bring in the right guy and that guy is Herman.


Do you realize how much sense it doesn't make for you to be saying this? There's far less empirical evidence to support Herman doing anything than there is to support miles not making the necessary changes you believe he is capable of making.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:51 am to
There is no reason, fans wanted Lee removed after he threw int after int against Florida. Jefferson when he replaced Lee that season was seen as someone who gave LSU another option. It wasn't until the following year people started on Jefferson.
Jennings people wanted Harris because Harris offered more upside.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:52 am to
He does and the schedule fell right this year for him to be undefeated
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:53 am to
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Harris started the Auburn game and then saw what 3 plays the rest of the year?


And Les mocked the media when they asked him about getting a qb prepared for next year. All the Les Miles fanboys thought Miles was so funny and he just slapped down the whiny media.

Looks like the whiny media understood more about developing a qb than ole Lester.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:53 am to
Well now you are making things up, where did I say my first choice is Miles?
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:53 am to
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First year starters?


Like mccarron in 2011? Like sims last year?
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:54 am to
Harris should have been playing against Arkansas and the bowl game last year. Hell he should have been give a lot more time
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:56 am to
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There is no reason,


There's no reason for you to comment that Alabama fans wanted Coker benched this season, and yet you did it.
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:56 am to
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Harris started the Auburn game and then saw what 3 plays the rest of the year?

Harris saw a little action before that game but not much.

Not much action against MSU? Or New Mexico State? How many touchdown passes did he have? 6.

The fact that Les then chose to bench him doesn't mean he had no significant learning prior. It just makes you scratch your head on why he wasn't given more learning time with PT. Like against Arky.

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I like Harris so I am biased on him, I think next year he takes a big step in his development.

Change the word Harris to JJ, and I heard that exact phrase every year. And nothing changed, until graduation, and the same pattern continues.

Why is it that Harris has regressed since the beginning of the season? That's what people have to ask themselves.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:56 am to
McCarron was redshirt sophomore, Sims was a senior...

Gimme a first year senior over a first year sophomore any day.

Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:57 am to
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Well now you are making things up, where did I say my first choice is Miles?


Are you denying that you still want miles to be the coach at Lsu next year?
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23327 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:58 am to
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People got mad and this is the aftermath now.


People are mad because of how inept the team has looked, even during some of the wins, but especially during the losses. That game last week made the case against Miles right now. There is no discipline on this team. The penalties. The turnovers. The 4th down at the goal line.

The players are accountable, but someone has to actually hold them accountable and instill that discipline. That has to come from the top down.

This hasn't ever been a strong suit with Miles, but it used to be good enough. Now it isn't. That's what has pushed so many over the edge against him.
This post was edited on 11/28/15 at 9:59 am
Posted by Choupique19
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Member since Sep 2005
61839 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:58 am to
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Harris should have been playing against Arkansas and the bowl game last year. Hell he should have been give a lot more time


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