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re: Coordinators and Position Coaches haven't been finalized
Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:10 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:10 am to SlowFlowPro
Saban backdoored his way into a 2nd title (using rant logic now)
Les is what he is, he could stay and LSU could win 8-11 games for the next several years still. A new coach could come in and do the same, no one knows.
I think Herman is the next Meyer and would love him at LSU. I don't see Jimbo as that big of an improvement, he can come and be the same 8-11 win coach. Just my opinion but Herman is the one I want.
Les is what he is, he could stay and LSU could win 8-11 games for the next several years still. A new coach could come in and do the same, no one knows.
I think Herman is the next Meyer and would love him at LSU. I don't see Jimbo as that big of an improvement, he can come and be the same 8-11 win coach. Just my opinion but Herman is the one I want.
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Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:10 am to SlowFlowPro
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you can't rely on that sort of shite
2010 was the year he woulda been fired for his 3rd straight zook like year had UNC receiver not dropped the winning TD in atlanta. i was there. Also JJ looked like shite and Lee bailed his arse out continuously that year. 4th and 16 against UT? The game wining drive against UF? miles easily could have had 5 losses. all we did was delay the inevitable with that man. I laid out for years what was wrong with his performances. All anybody could do was look at just overall W's and L's because they know nothing about performance and X's and O's. It's quite laughable. The chickens have come home to roost.
Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:11 am to BilJ
yep, and both those games involved Tyrann running back punts for TD's to get things rolling. Tyrann was truly our MVP of that year.
Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:11 am to tduecen
It took having 3 NFL pro bowlers (Hill, OBJ, and Jarvis) and a 2nd year Mett to open up the offense a little more. But it wasn't Mett. Les was still running 1 WR plays for Mett his Jr year. The offense isn't changing man. This is it. Enough with the next year crap and the constant QB excuses.
13-10 in sec the last 3 years, tied with Ole Miss and Miss St. That's not cutting it.
13-10 in sec the last 3 years, tied with Ole Miss and Miss St. That's not cutting it.
Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:11 am to BilJ
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The signs of its decline began against Ark and UGA, the final scores don't indicate it but signs of it being figured out were there.
sure. 7 straight 3 and outs in SECCG was a huge telltale sign of things to come.
Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:12 am to SlowFlowPro
I'm not a fan of arguing the 4-5 plays either way. No team has won a national championship without big plays or fortuitous luck thrown in the mix. Miles issues are summed up pretty well the last three weeks. Losing to Bama, unprepared against Arkansas and Ole Miss, penalty laden, no offense or adaptation, and the continual repeat of next year is the year. I know. I was once a defender and we can spot our own. We see the others walking down the street and give each other the somber what's up and kick the rocks at our feet with an uncomfortable anxiety. A once proud group now thrown in with the lot of these negatigers. Woe is to us.
This post was edited on 11/28/15 at 9:15 am
Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:12 am to ehidal1
It's a shame we have wasted so much offensive talent over the years.
Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:12 am to ehidal1
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13-10 in sec the last 3 years, tied with Ole Miss and Miss St. That's not cutting it.
and............2-7 against bama, arky and OM last 3 years.
Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:13 am to tduecen
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This season may be the kick in the face Les needs in order to open up the offense
You have been defending Miles to the point of delusion lately. Very persistent and optimistic I'll admit, but how many times have we said this?
What evidence is there at all to suggest we "open up" the offense? We've had an offense ranked 94th or worse 6 of the last 7 years. 1 out of 7 is called an outlier. It's an anomaly.
This is our offense, if you want it to change you have to change coaches, end of story.
Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:13 am to BilJ
that first half against UGA was so ugly
and the whole "well you're only saying that b/c of 1/9/12" is bullshite b/c there were many arguments about whether that was the best LSU team in the modern era and i argued 2006 or 2007 was a more well-rounded team b/c of their offensive potential. the argument is not an example of post-hoc reasoning
and the whole "well you're only saying that b/c of 1/9/12" is bullshite b/c there were many arguments about whether that was the best LSU team in the modern era and i argued 2006 or 2007 was a more well-rounded team b/c of their offensive potential. the argument is not an example of post-hoc reasoning
Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:14 am to BilJ
Yep and not coincidentally when JJ took over the offense. The offense vs UGA in the SECCG was as bad as 1/9. Mathieu just bailed us out on a punt return, same as Arkansas. The score ended up worse because for once Les kept throwing on Bobby.
Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:15 am to rintintin
people are so pessimistic A lot of my "defense" has been aimed at those who are Maki g outlandish statements. You want him fired you don't like what Ive types, so in your head I'm a Les defender.
Forget I've stated over and over and over I want Herman.
Kinda fun at this point that people believe what they want.
Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:16 am to SlowFlowPro
2006 team was special, that team should have been in the NC
Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:20 am to SlowFlowPro
I don't really share the same sentiments for 2011 that you do. He did what he could with the QBs he had, but you can't really fault him for TM7 making plays. For the UGA game, TM7 made play but we skull fricked them on the ground that night.
I thought outside of not giving Shep enough touches that season (he had 7 rushing attp!), he handled the RB rotation well and managed the QBs as well as anyone could.
All in all, you cant fault him for leaning on an all time great defense. Any coach would have.
Now i do think that year gave him a false sense of hope that he could win like this from there on out. Leaning on defense, hoping for big plays in the kicking game and on defense. Pretty much taking a back seat with the offense. This is what came to light in the following seasons.
I thought outside of not giving Shep enough touches that season (he had 7 rushing attp!), he handled the RB rotation well and managed the QBs as well as anyone could.
All in all, you cant fault him for leaning on an all time great defense. Any coach would have.
Now i do think that year gave him a false sense of hope that he could win like this from there on out. Leaning on defense, hoping for big plays in the kicking game and on defense. Pretty much taking a back seat with the offense. This is what came to light in the following seasons.
This post was edited on 11/28/15 at 9:23 am
Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:22 am to tduecen
I like Herman. It would be intriguing to see what he could do. However, I think Jimbo is the much safer choice.
Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:22 am to ehidal1
still maintain bringing JJ back was a mistake. Lee's confidence started to wane as soon as JJ came back, he saw what was coming and tightened up
Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:23 am to S
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JPW developed under mcelwain who even made mcelroy serviceable and got him drafted. McCarron came along pretty nicely and was already polished once tosh 5.0 arrived. Sabes def opened things up post 11-5-11 the way les should have after 1-9-12. They tweaked their scheme quite a bit last year and looked good with fricking simms ( while we just shoehorn guys into miles' fraidy-cat system) and are poised to play for another title with coker who may be the worst qb of the saban era.
Thank you. Nick didn't "see the light" when he hired Kiffen. Saban had won 4 national titles before hiring Kiffen. McCarron was a Heisman runner up. Les Miles has qb's that routinely pass for less than 150 yards a game.
Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:23 am to Lester Earl
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For the UGA game, TM7 made play but we skull fricked them on the ground that night.
once he broke their back and we got momentum. the momentum was my bigger point about how we play
LSU plays like a NCAA 2007 game, which overpowered "momentum" in-game to a retarded degree
2011 was just different b/c our big plays mostly came from D/ST and not big play action passing plays (which we've relied on mostly outside of 2011). even back in the dark ages of QB play, we'd still bust out big plays
Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:23 am to Lester Earl
Thing is Les will not win without experienced QB play...
2006 we had Russell, 2007 Flynn
08-09 young guys
10/11 they start winning again
12 first year guy
13 senior Mett and good again
14/15 first year young guys
Les is at fault for not having a QB that has stayed to take over. Alabama has benefitted from this, when was the last time a sophomore started for them? McCarron was a junior correct? Same with McElroy?
Was McCarron in 2011, was a redshirt sophomore
2006 we had Russell, 2007 Flynn
08-09 young guys
10/11 they start winning again
12 first year guy
13 senior Mett and good again
14/15 first year young guys
Les is at fault for not having a QB that has stayed to take over. Alabama has benefitted from this, when was the last time a sophomore started for them? McCarron was a junior correct? Same with McElroy?
Was McCarron in 2011, was a redshirt sophomore
This post was edited on 11/28/15 at 9:27 am
Posted on 11/28/15 at 9:24 am to tduecen
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A lot of my "defense" has been aimed at those who are Maki g outlandish statements. You want him fired you don't like what Ive types, so in your head I'm a Les defender. Forget I've stated over and over and over I want Herman.
What's even funnier is you're making outlandish statements to defend him, and you don't even realize it.
'Miles just needs to hire the right OC.' Years of history and past hires prove he won't do that.
'This year could be the kick in the face he needs.' Years upon years of the same mistakes, same terrible offense, same poorly prepared teams prove otherwise.
It's also amazing that you don't consider what you're doing in here "defending" miles
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