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re: Power strip recommendations

Posted by westom on 11/20/21 at 8:58 am
Protection routinely inside electronics is equal or more robust than any plug-in protector. Long list of items, not on a protector, apparently were unharmed. Including dishwasher, clock radios, LED & CFL bulbs, central air, doorbell, recharging electronics, garage door opener, furnace, GFCIs, digi...

re: Help With New TV

Posted by westom on 10/11/20 at 11:13 am
Protection only exists when each wire connects to that earthing electrode. Three AC wires enter. Only one connects directly to earth. A lightning strike many blocks away mean a surge is incoming and hunting for earth ground destructively via appliances. Incoming on those other two wires that h...

re: Help With New TV

Posted by westom on 10/10/20 at 4:02 pm
If any item needs protection, then every appliance (many less robust than a TV) must be protected. Including dishwasher, clock radios, central air, LED & CFL bulbs, refrigerator, recharging electronics, GFCIs, washing machine, furnace, door bell, and smoke detectors. What protects all? Same thing...

re: AC surge protector and hard start kit

Posted by westom on 7/31/20 at 8:50 am
Surge protector never does surge protection. A protector is only a connecting device to what does all protection - to what harmlessly dissipates hundreds of thousands of joules. If an A/C needs that protection, then every household appliance (dishwasher, clock radios, washing machine, LED & CFL ...
Best protection for any wiring - 1920 or 2020 - is that same 'whole house' solution. Wiring does not make damage easier. Generally wiring, not maintained, causes threats to humans - not to hardware. Once a surge is anywhere inside, then it is incoming to every appliance (with or without a protec...
If that data is saved, then only serious threats are from hardware damage from a transient or the more common threat - failure from a manufacturing defect. Informed consumers waste no money on profit center protectors with near zero protection (joule) numbers. Informed consumers spend tens of ti...
[quote] Surges coming from the inside of a home cannot be prevented by any SPD and likely can't protect anything due to small wiring in branch circuits.[/quote] So much is wrong with that statement that I hardly know where to begin. If surges exist inside a house, then GFCIs, furnace controls, d...
UL 1449 and UL 489 says nothing about quality. A protector can do no hardware protection and still have those numbers. UL is only about protecting human life. UL says nothing about the quality of hardware. This protector was also UL 1449 listed. Why is this called quality? https://i.redd.it/...
What number defines quality? Clearly not price. ...
You are asking right questions by asking for numbers. Many who recommend have no idea what these numbers are. Surges (lightning is only one example) mean protection must somehow harmlessly dissipate hundreds of thousands of joules. Facilities that cannot have damage, even over 100 years ago, ro...
It is not cheap cords or undersizing. Problem is extension cords move and are exposed. So arc fault breakers were created. Too many bedrooms used extension cords that moved too much, were crushed, etc. Therefore fires resulted. An extension cord - all of them - is only for temporary service. ...
[quote]This fridge is 5/6 yrs. old and has been though several power surges.[/quote] If several transients that exceeded 1000 volts existed, then how many other appliances were damaged? A blackout (outage) is not a surge. However advertising promotes that myth to sell plug-in protectors. If a ...
What did you do to avert future failures? ...
Effective protection means everything (dishwasher, clocks, central air, dimmer switches, microwave, GFCIs, garage door opener, furnace, LED & CFL bulbs, smoke detectors) is protected. Worse, no plug-in protetor claims effective protection. Anyone can read specification numbers. Most do not and ma...

re: Computer is dead....again!

Posted by westom on 1/10/18 at 5:27 pm
Why assume a power surge existed? How many other household appliances were also destroyed by a surge? How did a surge get into a motheerboard without passing through the PSU? What part on a motherboard was damaged? If he did not know that, then he did not even know if a motherboard is dama...
[quote]Thanks, I'm thinking this may be my problem.[/quote] Damage exists because a human failed to earth that surge current BEFORE it entered. Many have recommended a 'whole house' protector since AC electric has no protection without that essential device. And only if properly earthed (ie a les...
[quote]what is the difference between your shock and her pop?[/quote] You might not want an answer. Blow up dolls pop. ...
> Electricity traveled through the surge protector, fried the surround sound, and travelled through the Xbox into the guitar. That protector explains why robust protection already inside the surround sound and Xbox were compromised. Microsoft also recommends no protector on the Xbox. If a ho...
[quote]Knocked out my router, but not my modem. Both on the same outlet. Knocked out my radio, but not the charging ipad on the same outlet. [/quote] That is exactly what a surge does when one does not properly earth a well proven 'whole house' solution. Also what happens when plug-in protectors...
Surges do not blink. A blink might follow a surge. But a surge is a massive incoming transient. Once permitted inside, then that surge is incoming to all appliances. It only damages one or some that make a best connection to earth. Nothing on its power cord (unfortunately called a surge prote...