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re: T-ZERO DAYS until Italy, final logistics to-do list

Posted on 4/13/17 at 2:30 pm to
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 2:30 pm to
Rome, Florence, Tuscan countryside. Temps were pretty mild the whole trip.
Posted by GEAUXLPOST
Member since Sep 2012
1344 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 2:35 pm to
This happened to someone on our trip getting on the metro in Rome. Three young girls, maybe 10-12 years old. They waited until the doors were about to close, snatched and jumped through the doors.
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6347 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 3:51 pm to
On pickpocketing/purse/bag snatching, how should we go about protecting ourselves? I plan on bring my single shoulder strap backpack with us everywhere (strap goes across the chest. My wife also has some sort of purse/backpack thing that she intends to bring around. What do we need to do to secure these things? Do we need to lock the zippers? Are these bags bad ideas?
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35591 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 3:56 pm to
Take the minimum with you that you need for the day and lock everything else up in the hotel safe. I didn't carry a wallet. Just a single credit card, ID and whatever cash I thought I needed but IIRC I charged everything possible. I also bought tickets for The Vatican, galleries, etc. online beforehand so I just had to show up with my print out.
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
22443 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:38 pm to
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Hitting Rome->Pisa->Florence->Venice


you should skip Pisa and Venice.
Posted by GEAUXLPOST
Member since Sep 2012
1344 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:42 pm to
I usually have a Pacsafe backpack with me that has zippers that hide away and clamp down, or can be locked. Got it on Amazon, it was like $100 I think. It's lined with a wire mesh that does not allow it to be sliced open by razor (some thieves will cut the bottom so your things fall out, pick up what they can and run). It also has RFID blocking compartments in it to keep cards,etc... I keep my ID, credit card, and cash in a holder inside my waist band. small cash and coins in my pocket, cell phone in pocket, but always know its there.
Posted by GEAUXLPOST
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:42 pm to
Skip Venice? Is that a joke? Pisa, I understand. You get there, it's crooked, and you leave. But Venice is spectacular.
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 4:43 pm
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
22443 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:44 pm to
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Skip Venice? Is that a joke?

no

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But Venice is spectacular.

it's a giant tourist trap. It sucks.
Posted by GEAUXLPOST
Member since Sep 2012
1344 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:49 pm to
Every place an American visits in Europe is damn near a tourist trap, that's part of their economy. Doge's Palace and St. Marks are incredible. Venice is phenomenal during the day and pretty impressive at night. Sorry you had a crappy experience there, but the entire experience in Venice was incredible. I spent 2 days there.

Pisa is good for a piss break and to stretch your legs if you're just passing through. definitely wouldn't go out of my way for it.
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6347 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 5:41 pm to
That's pretty much what Pisa would be.

Either a) drive from Rome to Florence via the coast/Pisa or b) train from Rome to Florence then bus from Florence to pisa and back. If I'm going to Italy, I'm definitely checking that box.


Pisa check
Coliseum check
Vatican check
David check
Gondola ride check
Spanish steps check
trevi fountain check

Etc

The above won't be taking up the whole trip (hell, just a small fraction), but I'm hitting them.

ETA: option a was just to give us a slower paced drive through the countryside to see non-city Italy. Im from the country here, I want to see what their chackbay looks like.
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 5:43 pm
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 5:52 pm to
Their Chackbay is way prettier. Even the most rural landscapes have been under cultivation for 1,000s of years, so there isn't much truly wild left, unless you're in the mountains too steep for farming.
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11684 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 10:17 pm to
Clothes- If you're doing churches, it is at least strongly recommended to have pants and covered shoulders. It might be a requirement. I didn't want to be that guy, and I always wear shorts and a polo here.

Rome from the Airport should be right at €48. Flat rate for all. We had our air BnB set a guy up for us. He charged us that. Saw it on a taxi a few days later. Uber might be cheaper.

In Florence, We did a tour with Walks of Italy. (Did a Vatican & Coloseum one with them too. All excellent, 5*). It was called Florence in a day. It was amazing. The guide was incredible. Highly recommend them.

Tuscany
We did a wine tour with Grape Tours. Two wineries and an old village. Really good wine. I bought 1/2 a case from each.

Tenuta Torciano. Call them or email them. Ask them to set you up with Franco. He'll take you to Siena, then to the winery, and then finish in San Gimignano. We had lunch at the winery and tasted 10-12 wines. By taste, I mean we got dialed in. I bought a case of wine here.
Posted by lsurulzes88
Member since Jan 2007
398 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:15 am to
One other tour we did in Rome that I highly recommend to everyone going was Le Domus Romane di Palazzo Valentini. It's two old villas underground that were discovered during a renovation. They put glass floors and walls throughout the whole thing and use modern projection to enhance the areas that were destroyed over time. It was a nice, relaxing time and an awesome way to see preserved architecture that you would have to use your imagination for otherwise.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35591 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:37 am to
Relax. Enjoy. Explore. Eat food at the small towns. It's fabulous. Order a glass of table wine or a bottle of the local wine. It's very good and it's cheap. You'll get bottles there for 8 euro that cost $40 a bottle in the states.
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
13398 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:38 am to
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Cash: Should I attempt to acquire some euro here in the US or wait until I arrive? If here, how much should I bring (walking around money)?


I brought 250 euro, then used ATM's as needed. Make sure to use bank or credit union ATM's though.

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Clothes: While I'm going over there as a tourist (obviously) and will look like it, I don't want to be typical American. I wear shorts and flip flops here as casual wear. Is that acceptable or passe? Shorts and tennis shoes better? No shorts? Note: this doesn't count for religious places where I'll be wearing long pants. I also plan on bringing only sport fabric polo style shirts and t-shirts. Also, what about a cap? Should I leave my American flag Columbia fishing hat at home? Can I rock my LSU hat?


You'll stick out regardless, unless you dress like a millennial living in NYC. That said, you will see very few locals wearing shorts or hats. Your call though. I wore pants every day of our trip.

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Toiletries: We're not planning on checking any bags so we'll have ti buy most of our toiletries there. This should be no big deal, right?


Shouldn't be, farmacias are everywhere. But it also can't hurt to bring travel sized toiletries anyway.

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Getting around Rome: We're staying in the Trastevere neighborhood. What's the best way to get from the Airport to there? Also, what's the best way to get around Rome in general (longer distances).


If you can't walk, use the cabs. Make sure it's an official Rome taxi though.


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Florence: We have two full days scheduled for Florence.
At this point, Day1 will be a whole free day. We will hit all the main attractions on Day2 (I wish we could have lined this up for day one but it didn't work out). Anyway, on Day1 should we plan a day trip out to Tuscany or spend the day just taking in Florence on our own?


Day trip would be a good idea, but may be too late to book. Having a free day in Florence is not a bad thing though, it's a fantastic city. One of my most fond memories of Florence was enjoying a bottle of white with my fiance in front of the duomo in the perfect weather.

Enjoy the trip, Italy is a special place.

ETA: regarding the weather, I was there first week of May last year. Hot enough during the day to sweat if walking a lot, cool enough at night to need a jacket. It makes packing tough, especially for your SO (if she's anything like mine - mine packed a 60lbs suitcase )
This post was edited on 4/15/17 at 9:43 am
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72934 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 10:38 am to
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I wanna say not many men wear shorts over there.


huh? my italian professor friend wears cargo shorts and a tee all the time there.
Posted by Guava Jelly
Bawston
Member since Jul 2009
11651 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 11:15 am to
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Cash:

Just get cash once you're there. It's easiest. As mentioned, the busier points in Rome and Florence (airports, train stations, markets, etc.) are notorious for pickpockets. Keep your wallet in your front pocket.

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Clothes

Just dress like you normally dress. Don't wear flipflops in Rome or Florence. You're going to be walking A LOT. Plan your footwear accordingly.

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International driving permit:

If you're driving, you'll need one. It only took me about 30 minutes to get mine at AAA.

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Toiletries

Won't be a problem to get.

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Pisa

Just show up as early as possible at the tower. There will be a line.

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Florence

I'd stay in the city the full two days. You won't be able to see everything in a day. It's a great city, and you can get some beautiful views of the countryside from the top of the hill in the Medici garden behind the Palazzo Pitti (must see).

I went to Rome for the second time last month. Trastevere is a great neighborhood. Check out Bir and Fud, great pizza. And if you get sick of pizza and pasta, Open Baladin has a great craft beer selection and one of the best burgers I've ever had.

Enjoy the food. Drink the house wine (trust me). Take in the sights.
This post was edited on 4/15/17 at 11:25 am
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 1:21 pm to
You've referenced your Italian professor friend before, and I'd like to point out that academics worldwide aren't exactly known for their snappy attire. At the seaside, in a resort town by the sea, hiking on a trail, just coming off or going to the soccer pitch, or out jogging (and not very many runners): you will see Italian men in shorts. In the middle of a city, the only adult men in shorts will generally be tourists--usually Americans & Germans. Teens/children, sure. Certainly not in the evening or in a restaurant.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 4:52 pm to
I wore shorts everywhere for the most part... Most it seems wear linen pants though
Posted by DoctorO
BTR
Member since Jun 2010
276 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 6:59 pm to
Don't drive in the left lane of the autostrada unless you want an Audi up your tailpipe.
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