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re: T-ZERO DAYS until Italy, final logistics to-do list

Posted on 4/17/17 at 9:15 pm to
Posted by RedStickBR
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Posted on 4/17/17 at 9:15 pm to
4 days for Rome, 3 days for Florence and 2 days for Venice is plenty enough time. Do day trips on any remaining days.

Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 4/17/17 at 9:55 pm to
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Next q: booking train tickets from Florence to Venice. I've muddled my way though so far on their website but noting is in english and i'm probably making big unseen mistakes. Any websites allow booking in english or just wait to book there? Looking for the fast train from Florence to Venice.


The Trenitalia website has an English option. If on the mobile site, click the menu in the upper right corner and you'll see the language option. Buy your tickets a day or two in advance online on your phone and pull up the ticket on your phone, very easy. IIRC, e-tickets do not require validation. They'll just scan the barcode when you're in your seat.

ETA: I normally would book my tickets the night before we were going to whatever city. Doesn't save that much money to book ahead. Think it was normally between €40-55 per person.
This post was edited on 4/17/17 at 10:02 pm
Posted by lsurulzes88
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/18/17 at 5:15 am to
Look for illy Crema in Rome and Florence. It's a frozen coffee drink made from espresso and mixed in a slushie style machine. It is heaven in a glass when you can find it.
Posted by BlackenedOut
The Big Sleazy
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Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:37 am to
Headed to Dishoom Saturday night. Will report back.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:41 am to
Not sure if this is too late, but very jealous about your trip!! Wife and I did almost the exact same trip 10 years ago and had a blast.

Basic basic advice, we love driving internationally, and the drive through Tuscany was great. BUT GET THE GPS!!!! This may be totally obvious and not even worth mentioning today but back then we almost didn't get it (rental place was out and had to wait for them to get another one from a different location) and holy shite we would still be in downtown Rome if we hadn't waited to get it. The second we drove out of the garage the world flipped upside down and inside out

Other than that, driving was great, although we would have had to hustle our asses off to get from Rome to Florence in just one day. We decided it wasn't worth it to drive the coast because the main highway isn't actually right on the water. Didn't sound like you'd actually get the water views. So we decided to wait for Cinque Terre to see the coast and instead went inland through Tuscany. Made a couple of stops (Siena has a big college so the Square there is beautiful and great for people watching during lunch, and even found a kind of hidden gem in San Gigmignano, Town of a Thousand Towers, but it is a bit out of the way).

Also did Pisa and yeah it is absolutely worth it for the photo op. The building itself is crazy, can't believe how much it leans. Definitely worth seeing and we were literally there for just an hour.

Then stayed over in Cinque Terre for the night and saw the other towns the next day before heading out to Florence. CT is great, the views are outstanding, but I could see how some people could do without it. It wasn't very crowded when we were there (just a couple of weeks earlier in season than your trip in early April) but could see it being less enjoyable if the towns and trails were overrun.


Rome is a fantastic walking city. We were there for six days and must have walked fifty miles. Wish there were fitbits back then So much to see and just take in. Most sites are obvious but plan out extra time at Trevi fountain. It's small but gets very busy and you may have to sit for a while and work your way down to the rim to get close up pics. But worth it just appreciate all the detail of it. Don't be rushed.

We also set aside a full day for Vatican City and probably could have spent even more time there. Again, it's nice to just sit and take in the full picture of where you are. It really is an amazing place.


I think I am in the minority, but do not skimp on Venice. Florence was nice and all, but I thought it was too built up for me. We did four days in Florence and two in Venice but I would have absolutely added a day in Venice instead. We were totally in love with Venice. Just felt transported to a different world and time whereas Florence felt pretty typical of any European city imo. Having traveled extensively throughout Europe before this trip, I just felt like I had seen it all before. Duomo is impressive and the museums are nice, but after a week in Rome and having been to the Louvre and other great museums before I just got kind of bored there honestly.

Venice is like no place I've been before or since. It wasn't hot yet when we were there either so I hear that makes a difference (canals can supposedly get pretty ripe, but we didn't notice an odor at all). St Marks is definitely crowded but once you get away from there the streets never felt too busy at all and the nights were actually very quiet. We walked around for hours and felt like we had the place to ourselves. It was a great end to the trip.

I would have to ask my wife if she remembers and names of restaurants or hotels, but know you are going to have a blast.
This post was edited on 4/18/17 at 6:47 am
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 4/18/17 at 8:31 am to
Looking forward to hearing your report. We went to the location in Covent Garden, but there are others as well. Dishoom in Shoreditch (have not been) followed by Nightjar (have been) for cocktails would probably make for a hell of a night.

I'd make food recommendations, but it's all good and we had success asking the server to bring a variety of her favorite dishes. That's probably the best route to go.
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 8:34 am to
Venice is incredible for a couple of days. However, it requires more effort than most places to find the non-touristy, off the beaten path locations. That is what makes or breaks Venice, in my opinion. Authentic Venice is fantastic. Touristy Venice is shallow and plastic feeling.
Posted by GEAUXLPOST
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/18/17 at 9:40 am to
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Other side of the river is great. Lots of good leather on that side of the river, but the best is Papini just on the north side of the Ponte Vecchio. They've made leather for nearly every US President and make incredible leather money clips. I've had one for three years that is still as good as the day I bought it after daily use.


Can confirm.. I'm a shoe nut, and bought an incredible pair in Florence where Redstick is talking about. Also got a jacket, belts, and wallets. All extremely high quality. Good stuff isn't "cheap", but I think the value of what I received is unmatched here in the states.
Posted by GEAUXLPOST
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/18/17 at 9:55 am to
There is a restaurant across from Chiesa di San Geremia (body of St. Lucy is here, and visible) in Venice. This is located on the train station side of Venice, not St. Marks side. The name of it is "Trattoria Vittoria de Aldo" Family owned. Mama's Lasagna was awesome, the fresh fish was outstanding.

They let me cut Prosciutto and treated us phenomenally, great memories.
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 4/18/17 at 10:53 am to
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How hard/rough is it to get around Rome by foot?

We walked 7-12 miles every day. Probably close to eight on average. It's pretty easy to get around, but Uber is easily available too.
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11684 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 10:59 am to
Check out my thread a few below. It may help some. I've posted through Florence so far. Trenitalia is super easy and convenient. I had forgotten that the trains don't pull up until about 10mins before the departure. I was freaking out our first train leg.

The middle car has snacks and craft beer.
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Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
13398 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:53 am to
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but Uber is easily available too.


Thought they just banned Uber?
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 4/18/17 at 12:39 pm to
Bit the bullet and went get an international driving permit.

Only hole left in my trip is getting from Venice to the airport at 5:30am. Flight leaves at 7:45. Any help with that? Not sure if a water taxi is the right option.
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11684 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 12:44 pm to
I think just Rome and Milan have it. I used it in Rome about 15 days ago.
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
13398 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 12:57 pm to
Pretty sure the big water taxis run early morning, IIRC it's a 20 minute or so boat ride to the airport. Depending on how long you're in Venice for, there is a 72 hour pass you can buy and you just hop on and off at your leisure. I remember it being the best deal for getting around. Don't use the fast personal water taxi's unless you are rich and okay spending a fortune lol.
This post was edited on 4/18/17 at 12:59 pm
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
13398 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 12:58 pm to
Just double checked, Italy banned Uber nationwide on April 10th or 11th, not sure if it was effective immediately though.
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11684 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 1:51 pm to
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Just double checked, Italy banned Uber nationwide on April 10th or 11th, not sure if it was effective immediately though.


Holy shite. We left Rome on the 4th or 5th. IIRC, our driver said that only Rome and Milan had it then.

That's crazy.
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
13398 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 2:04 pm to
I haven't followed it closely, but just from googling it, it actually looks like they banned it right after y'all left but the courts just lifted the ban temporarily yesterday or today. Seems to me like it'll be around for a bit until the injunction works its way through the Italian legal system. It's certainly handy to have just in case. When we arrived in Rome it was pouring down raining and the cab stand had a huge line so we used an uber and it worked out great...driver didn't know any English though.
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11684 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 2:57 pm to
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It's certainly handy to have just in case

Definitely. Our host set us up a private van to the Air BnB.

We used Uber when we were running late for our 07:30 tour at the Vatican, to dinner in Trastevere, and departing Rome to the train station.
This post was edited on 4/18/17 at 2:58 pm
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6347 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 10:01 pm to
oh well shite, 4/25 is a national holiday in Italy (Liberation Day). Rental car companies are closed. F ME! hahaha

eta: looks like the main rental car places are open (near train stations). either way, should be interesting!
This post was edited on 4/18/17 at 10:09 pm
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