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re: Rural Internet options. Unlimitedville?

Posted on 3/17/19 at 11:23 am to
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22190 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 11:23 am to
In gonna try this at my parents house that gets 2 Mbps
Posted by h0bnail
Member since Sep 2009
7432 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 1:11 pm to
Anyone gaming on this? Are speeds consistent enough?
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 10:55 pm to
Biggest issue is likely ping. Based on what was shown previously, it would likely be too much ping for FPS games, but other styles of online play could be done I would imagine.
Posted by LSU>USC
Campus
Member since May 2004
328 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:11 am to
I'm able to play PS4 online with this setup. I play Rocket League and Apex Legends recently. Pings aren't great but it's not awful. It's definitely better when using a LAN into one of my Google WiFi pucks and then setting the PS4 as a priority WiFi device. It's worth noting I get average ATT cell tower signal (between 2-3 bars).
Posted by h0bnail
Member since Sep 2009
7432 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:21 am to
Might give it a shot. It's half the price of what I'm paying for 20MB cable.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18248 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:29 am to
If you look back earlier, he said he was getting 52-82 ping. That's not very good at all for gaming especially for a game like Apex where you'll have even worse ping to their servers.

I get between 4-7 ping with cox
Posted by LSU>USC
Campus
Member since May 2004
328 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:29 am to
It's definitely the best option for those of us who can't get cable internet. I'm already at 150 GBs of data after 3 weeks and I haven't seen any throttling after the "22GB threshold".

Has anyone tried an external antenna on the Nighthawk to get a better signal? I'm about to try out this one.
Posted by LSU>USC
Campus
Member since May 2004
328 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:33 am to
It's perfectly acceptable for Apex. The only time I've seen lag is when the server itself lags and the people I play with are confirming it's the server lagging. I haven't noticed it lagging enough to affect my performance. I'm not sure how many games I've played but I'm a level 49 and have been playing for nearly three weeks straight. Yes, it's not ideal but it gets the job done.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 1:37 pm to
i just ordered my setup and have high hopes for this. I am curious about the antenna as well but there is an at&t cell tower near my house so hopefully i dont need it.
Posted by fishbig
Member since Feb 2007
1585 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:00 pm to
I have Hughesnet for service. Should I use this option instead? I would love to download movies with roku or Netflix. TIA
Posted by 03GeeTee
Oklahomastan
Member since Oct 2010
3371 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:41 pm to
If you have decent AT&T LTE reception at your house then you should absolutely go with this.
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 4:42 pm
Posted by fishbig
Member since Feb 2007
1585 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 5:01 pm to
Can someone explain this step by step for me? I have an old Samsung tablet, so I should have an IMEI to use.

What equipment do I need to buy?
What do I need Att to do or activate? How much is per month, once I get this activated?

Soory for the simple questions but I would love to go a different route and kick Hughesnet to the curb!
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 5:16 pm to
quote:

Can someone explain this step by step for me? I have an old Samsung tablet, so I should have an IMEI to use.


First step, Samsung tablet is not helpful for you, so don't worry about it.

The nuts and bolts of this is that ATT specifically has a $30/month plan for iPads that is unlimited. So that's where the *plan* comes from.

The wrinkle that we care about is that there is seemingly no check for whether an iPad is *using* that data. So once you enable the SIM for the $30/month ipad plan, you can put it in a hotspot.

So, you can either:

1) pay $30 or so to someone on ebay to get the plan (not optimal, but easier)

or

2) use the landing page referenced previously and either an imei generator or just look up a modern ipad with LTE service on ebay that has pictures that include an imei number.

Once you have your imei and a previously unused sim card, you can go to the landing page to enable service on the sim

Once either of these is completed, take your freshly enabled SIM card and plug it into the Hotspot and confirm that service is functional.

From there, because the hotspot has low signal output and is not designed for whole home usage, you would configure it for pass-through mode and hard wire it to a better Router/Mesh system for your house (ie. Orbi/Google Wifi)...

So in total, items to purchase:

$1-5 - Unused SIM card
$100-150 used - GSM Hotspot - Netgear Nighthawk M1 seems to be the unit of choice here
$$ could vary significantly depending on what you already have - Router and/or Mesh Network setup for Home - (Orbi/Google Wifi are examples, TP-Link makes a cheaper option if you don't mind a little more setup)

$30/month - Ongoing service from ATT - no contract, no data cap (just deprioritization after 22GB but most seem to indicate that it was not noticeable)

Because you're not talking about world class speeds here, an older router would probably be fine if you don't have a lot of home to broadcast to. The larger the house, the more you'll likely need to invest into a modern router/mesh system. Network speeds/configuration not my strongsuit, so someone can correct me if there is any decided advantage in using a more modern wifi router, but seems like any A/B/N router would be fine unless you need more signal coverage?
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 5:24 pm
Posted by 03GeeTee
Oklahomastan
Member since Oct 2010
3371 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 6:53 pm to
I need a mesh system now. Was just using a wireless extender for WiFi in the basement but now that I have faster internet the extender is cutting my speeds in half down there.
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Arkansas
Member since Jun 2009
13299 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 8:43 pm to
quote:

Has anyone tried an external antenna on the Nighthawk to get a better signal?

I'm assuming you're needing an antenna to pull in a better signal from the AT&T towers into your Nighthawk? If that's what you're referring to, nope haven't tried it as I don't need it. I consistently get 2-4 bars reception on my Nighthawk and that's perfectly acceptable for good enough reception stability.

If you are needing something to broadcast a signal within your house, I'd recommend a mesh system or some type of a good broadcast router.

The Nighthawk's broadcast strength sucks. That's why I just use it to catch the AT&T cell tower signal and hardwire it into my whole home mesh router system.
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 8:44 pm
Posted by LSU>USC
Campus
Member since May 2004
328 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 8:50 am to
quote:

I'm assuming you're needing an antenna to pull in a better signal from the AT&T towers into your Nighthawk? If that's what you're referring to, nope haven't tried it as I don't need it. I consistently get 2-4 bars reception on my Nighthawk and that's perfectly acceptable for good enough reception stability.


This is strictly for what you describe - to pull in a better, stronger signal from the ATT towers. I hooked it up yesterday and am pleased with the results so far. As previously mentioned, I was getting 2-3 bars reception before. This is still true but my ping dropped from 50-60 on average to below 50 with an average of 47 on speedtests. My d/l speed went up from an average of 30 mbps to 40. I did my tests with the antenna, then without, then with it again to confirm my average ping and d/l speeds. I still need to experiment with it more but even the small boost I'm seeing is worth it.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43618 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 7:27 am to
Has anyone tried port forwarding in any traffic? I suspect this isn't available on these cards. I know you won't get a public static but could use a public dns service. But I am sure AT&T is blocking inbound traffic.

Just wondering because I wouldn't mind using it for a remote camera if they are allowing inbound.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 8:19 am to
Did you have to drill holes in the device to do this? I saw an eBay listing that seemed to indicate this was necessary...
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 1:14 pm to
ok... i did everything and:

1)the nighthawk device says "Mobile Broadband Disconnected"
2)the attwifimanager site doesnt open or seem to exist and
3) my credit card company sent me a fraud alert confirming that i was using my card for this...

Whats happening
Posted by VABCHTIGER
South Boston, VA
Member since Sep 2007
318 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 1:53 pm to
Don't know about number 1.
Answer to number 2: instead of typing attwifimanager in your browser, try typing in 192.168.1.1 - and whatever your browser is on has to be connected to the negear nighthawk.
Number 3: Did the credit card company allow the charge? If they didn't, it might explain number 1?

I went through the eBay guy and didn't have any problems except the non-existent attwifimanager.
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