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re: New iPhone Bending

Posted on 9/25/14 at 3:41 pm to
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 3:41 pm to
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Might it just be that these 9 phones were assembled poorly or wrong?
maybe, but i would rather think otherwise and fuel the fire
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 3:57 pm to


Same article: posted by a reader:
quote:

Samsung instructed or hired people to buy the new iPhones and intentionally break them to cause this stupid warrantless trend. Just like their stupid commercials, this is just part of their propaganda to fight Apple.
Paranoid and delusional much?
This post was edited on 9/25/14 at 3:59 pm
Posted by ZereauxSum
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 4:31 pm to
quote:

quote: Samsung instructed or hired people to buy the new iPhones and intentionally break them to cause this stupid warrantless trend. Just like their stupid commercials, this is just part of their propaganda to fight Apple.



Paranoid and delusional much?


I honestly wouldn't put it past them. Samsung seems obsessed with one-upping Apple.

LG, HTC and Motorolla combined haven't put out even close to the amount of anti-Apple advertising as Samsung has.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 10:19 pm to
So has anyone on here experienced this themselves? This has been all over lately and everyone's been telling me they might as well be slinkies or something
Not sure if I believe that but man they're really running with this
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 11:48 pm to
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I honestly wouldn't put it past them. Samsung seems obsessed with one-upping Apple.

As fricked up and delusional as it sounds, there's no reason for it not to be true. I imagine it's common practice for companies to reverse-engineer their competitors' products if for nothing but the purpose of finding faults and ghosting them in their ads.

So, what's to stop them from discovering, "hey this iPhone bends if I try to bend it!" and then innocently "spreading the word"? It's been established that any time a problem is found with the iPhone in particular, it becomes national news. Regardless of how minimal or ridiculous that the problem is, obviously the extensive coverage is going to influence some buyers. Not every iPhone user is a sheep (gasp). A lot of them are like me, early adopters who have been sufficiently satisfied with iPhones but have grown more willing to try something new.

Posted by GatorReb
Dallas GA
Member since Feb 2009
9282 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 12:02 am to
quote:

Not every iPhone user is a sheep (gasp). A lot of them are like me, early adopters who have been sufficiently satisfied with iPhones but have grown more willing to try something new.


pretty much me exactly.

Do i think there are prolly better phones out there? Sure. But the iphone does everything i need it to do to where i have no reason to change.
Posted by SaltyMcKracker
Member since Sep 2011
2780 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 12:40 am to
It was probably found out by early adopters, IMO. A few unfortunate souls were just not used to the size, put it in too tight a pocket or leaned against something and put way too much stress on the device. 5.5+" devices are pretty easy to use everyday, but it does take a bit of getting used to these large phones and you may have to alter the way you use/carry it versus the smaller iPhones.

When the Dell Streak came out, it was found to have a cracking issue. A large part of the blame has to go to design of the phone. The issue with the device was that the screen was bolted down to a rigid frame, and it had a metal/plastic hybrid construction that did not take drops very well at all, even fairly short ones. The screen was secured in such a way that way too much energy from a drop was directed to the screen itself. A good bit of the issue was user error as well, b/c people were not used to handling such a large device. If you increase the surface area and decrease thickness, it becomes more fragile. Shocker, I know, but many of the users were not thinking this way and had little regard when handling it. I only give a bit of a pass on construction, b/c it was the first phablet, and I found that if you were mindful enough to treat it like a tablet, you handled it more carefully and had fewer mishandles.

Now with the 6+, Apple elected not to use any kind of reinforcing sub-frame and went with all aluminum, and this is the cause of the bending. Some will say this is a design flaw, and they may be correct but I suspect it may be by design. One thing these big phones don't do well with is drops, and something needs to dissipate that energy. I believe Apple purposely did not use a magnesium sub-frame so that the 6+ could absorb shock better to make the phone more durable. The problem is that when the aluminum is bent too far, it isn't going to be bending back. I may be completely wrong and it may be a design flaw, but I am interested how it will handle drop tests vs. other large devices.

tl;dr

People aren't used to big, thin devices and screwed them up accidentally. It is an isolated incident and now that it is in the public eye, folks will be more mindful of the issue and take better care of their phones.
This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 12:46 am
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78623 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 6:43 am to
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l;dr

People aren't used to big, thin devices and screwed them up accidentally. It is an isolated incident and now that it is in the public eye, folks will be more mindful of the issue and take better care of their phones.


Nope. Now that's it's a PR issue apple will quietly tweak their manufacturing process to reinforce the weak spot on the 6+ in future builds and the problem will simply fade from the public eye.
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 6:50 am to
quote:

Not every iPhone user is a sheep (gasp). A lot of them are like me, early adopters who have been sufficiently satisfied with iPhones but have grown more willing to try something new.


I like to think that there are more of us than the idiot fanboys
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 7:16 am to
I don't know about Samsung, but I especially enjoyed the LG tweet that had another one of those completely original and hilarious iPhone bending jokes.

It would have been perfect had they not tweeted it from an iPhone:

oops
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
11497 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:16 am to
Bendgate truthers lol

LINK

quote:

When he is bending it with his bare hands, the phone shows 2:26 p.m. Then, talking about it that later claiming it has bent as a consequence of his actions earlier in the video, the phone shows 1:58 p.m. Then later when he is summarizing, the time on the phone is 1:58 - 2:00 and has a bend in it. Then it shows 2 p.m. and the phone is straight with some possible damage near the volume button.


If he did exaggerate his findings, wow.... this guy cost Apple 22 Bil.

Posted by CAD703X
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Member since Jul 2008
78623 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:31 am to
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If he did exaggerate his findings, wow.... this guy cost Apple 22 Bil.


cuz he's the only one doing a bend test right?
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:42 am to
So he bent two phones and edited clips together?
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
11497 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:47 am to
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cuz he's the only one doing a bend test right?


He was the one that every media story cited except for the few media outlets with integrity that ran their own tests (finding the phones hard to bend)

This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 10:48 am
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85247 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:54 am to
quote:

this guy cost Apple 22 Bil.
wat
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78623 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:55 am to
quote:

He was the one that every media story cited except for the few media outlets with integrity that ran their own tests


LINK

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Lewis @UnboxTherapy · 8m

@justinhub2003 @lishengggg don’t worry going to bend another for you today, sucks to waste these - seems the only way though.

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Lewis @UnboxTherapy · 9m

OK way to many press inquires for these bogus claims, I’ve bent a few of these to verify - guess I’m going to have to do one more today…


quote:

Lewis @UnboxTherapy · 21m

@justinhub2003 got an extra 6 plus sitting here if you guys want me to bend it one angle, one take - let’s do it.


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Lewis @UnboxTherapy · 22m

@justinhub2003 overhead shot was overexposed was when screen reflected off lights, saw the clip, had to re-shoot - conclusion was the same.


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Lewis @UnboxTherapy · 26m

@justinhub2003 so you do want me to bend another, I’ve bent multiple. How bout a one take, one angle? geez people are desperate
This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 10:57 am
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85247 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 11:05 am to
It wasn't "easy" for him to bend it either. You can see him shaking. But it definitely seemed more difficult for him to bend the other, thicker and smaller metal phones
This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 11:06 am
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15761 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 11:10 am to
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Users have blamed the iPhone 6 Plus bending non-scandal on dozens of things, from the weak aluminum case to the crushing force of their own butts. But there's a very simple, structural reason the 6 Plus bends, and thankfully, someone has explained it on Imgur with moment diagrams and everything.

A user by the name of alleras4 took to Imgur to speculate that the body of the 6 Plus has nothing to do with the bending—and their argument actually makes a lot of sense. He or she argues that the bending really has to do with a poorly-designed reinforcement inside the phone and behind the volume buttons. If you take a look at the reinforcements that line the phone leading up to the buttons, you'll see there's plenty of stable inserts to protect the body. But by the volume buttons, that reinforcement ends with a screw, leaving the body prone to stress.




From gizmodo.

Design fail
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85247 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 11:13 am to
quote:

that reinforcement ends with a screw, leaving the body prone to stress.
quote:

Design fail
It's still way overblown if we're only talking about 10-100 owners being affected out of 10 mill+
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15761 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 11:16 am to
quote:

It's still way overblown
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