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re: Network speed test
Posted on 5/3/16 at 10:49 am to NOLAGT
Posted on 5/3/16 at 10:49 am to NOLAGT
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does that really mean 20-150
if you pay for 150, and get 20-150, you have an issue...If my 100, drops below 80 I call...I own all my equipment, and don't let them bullshite me with any of that...The problem is on their end and they know it..In my particular case, there are too many people on our node and they just haven't changed that...ATT Gig is coming to the neighborhood though and I'm using that as a bargaining chip
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Posted on 5/3/16 at 11:12 am to NOLAGT
quote:All ISPs overload some nodes, but no you shouldn't drop that low. I'm not really sure how they manage their traffic, whether an overloaded node divides traffic evenly or if it "weights" by who pays for faster service, but if your 150 service drops to 20 regularly, you need to call every time it happens.
I realize its up too 150 but does that really mean 20-150?
That said, from your reported numbers, I don't think your service is degraded that much. It looks to me like your expectations for wifi are too high, and you might have either some interference issues or your router isn't that great.
And again, something to keep in mind with speed tests is they will all give you different numbers (as you've seen). This is because there are SO many variables in play with any given test. There might be 20 or more "hops" between you and the test server, and any one or more of those devices may be saturated at any given time. For this reason, the best way I've found to measure what your service is really capable of is to fire up a large (and legal
) torrent with a lot of seeders and see what your rate gets up to. And remember to multiply by 8 to convert MB/s to mbps. Do this on a weekday evening between 7 and 9 to see how degraded your service gets, then do it on a weekend to see how fast it can get. 
Posted on 5/3/16 at 11:21 am to NOLAGT
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I realize its up too 150 but does that really mean 20-150? I know it will fluctuate but to me thats a big difference. I am stuck with Cox tho so im just trying to make sure its running as good as it can be.
Have you seen that kind of variance when testing to Cox's server, or just testing on the internet?
If it's on the internet, there's probably not shite they can do. If your test to their servers waivers that much, then you definitely need to let them know.
This post was edited on 5/3/16 at 11:22 am
Posted on 5/3/16 at 11:30 am to RecordSetter
Thats what im thinking too...plugged directly in and getting that kind of swing seems excessive. But this is not using there site...I have to try theres and see if it replicates.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 11:31 am to NOLAGT
I wouldn't put too much stock into a speedtest. Download an ISO file from Microsoft, a torrent, or something from whatever they are calling Megadownload these days and you'll have a better idea of what type of speed you're getting.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 1:27 pm to Hulkklogan
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That is all Cox can provide. If you're getting that kind of bandwidth to Cox's server, then you're getting your speeds. Once out on the Internet and off of Cox's network, Cox has no control over your speed.
Yes. And while the WiFi variance has been well-covered in this thread, it's worth mentioning how vital it is to have the right equipment. The modem part of the Ubee DDW366 supports 8 downstream channels. With typical cable subscriber load (read: too many people), 8 downstream channels is fine up to around 100mbps, but you can see a little less during peak times. This will vary by neighborhood/street of course.
But even if all other conditions are perfect (no subscriber overload, off-peak, no wireless interference, etc.), gateways (modem/router combos) like the Ubee DDW366 are not up to the task of providing full-saturation bandwidth consistently and reliably, especially not 100+ mbps. They have to handle the tasks of a modem, switch, and wireless access point on a single CPU that's generally weaker than the multi-threaded chips on even the moderately-priced dedicated routers. Performing a speed test puts a momentary sizable load on the CPUs in a router and modem at the same time, so you can imagine the potential power struggle when both must share a single CPU. Even if you test with a dedicated router connected, your gateway is still routing information to and from that router unless you specifically disabled those functions on the gateway itself rather than having it treat the router as an access point.
This post was edited on 5/3/16 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:31 pm to ILikeLSUToo
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ILikeLSUToo
now we are getting some good info thanks! So then using that logic it seems from my few testings that I am probably seeing the full speed from cox to the house since I see at times around 150 on different speed test. But its vastly varying numbers from test to test (20-150) is likely due to the ubee its self just being over worked and underpaid. I have read that provided equipment is not always best...I suspected some of my wifi issue was related to that...this just re-enforces that. So with that said my plan was to migrate my router duties to the Luxul router I have and I also have a 24 port Luxul switch. I was just going to use the ubee as the modem part...but it seems like that will keep hindering performance. What is a good modem only to run in this situation that doesnt brake the bank?
This post was edited on 5/3/16 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 5/3/16 at 3:24 pm to NOLAGT
Posted on 5/3/16 at 3:53 pm to Hulkklogan
Ah yea ok thats not too bad.
So I could get that for the modem duty...setup the luxul router...and then I would need an antenna because the luxul router is just a router. I have a unifi AP on the other side of my house...I could move that to cover the main area and get something else for that end of the house.
That leads me to my next question. I have a apple airport time capsule 2T thats a few years old. I believe it does not have AC. Could that be/is it a good idea to turn into a AP and also retain the backup functions and access to the 2T HD? It is not in use currently.
So I could get that for the modem duty...setup the luxul router...and then I would need an antenna because the luxul router is just a router. I have a unifi AP on the other side of my house...I could move that to cover the main area and get something else for that end of the house.
That leads me to my next question. I have a apple airport time capsule 2T thats a few years old. I believe it does not have AC. Could that be/is it a good idea to turn into a AP and also retain the backup functions and access to the 2T HD? It is not in use currently.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:00 pm to Hulkklogan
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I, and tons of people, have this modem. It's great.
I tried to future proof with the 16x, but only because I stepped into a great price
Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:12 pm to RecordSetter
This one?
Other than future proofing it seems I might see some improvement in the reliability of my speeds with 16 vs 8?
Other than future proofing it seems I might see some improvement in the reliability of my speeds with 16 vs 8?
This post was edited on 5/3/16 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:24 pm to NOLAGT
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That leads me to my next question. I have a apple airport time capsule 2T thats a few years old. I believe it does not have AC. Could that be/is it a good idea to turn into a AP and also retain the backup functions and access to the 2T HD? It is not in use currently.
I would, but if your AP on the other side of the house is doing AC, your devices will have to switch from AC to N (or whatever standard the Airport is broadcasting at) when you roam around the house, causing a brief reconnection.. In other words, the wifi won't be seamless unless you are running the same 802.11 standard across the entire network.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:27 pm to Hulkklogan
Figured that might cause a slight hiccup. I wonder if the airport can just be on the network as a auto backup drive for the mac's and also as a NAS and turn off all wifi/routing duties in it?
Posted on 5/3/16 at 6:44 pm to NOLAGT
I was having the same problems. Is that a modem router combo? If so, ditch it. I bought a Motorola surfboard SB6141 and a tp-link AC1750. I get much closer to my advertised speeds. You'll never get the full speed over WiFi. Also, make sure your router is centralized and not on the ground, near other electronics, or have to penetrate many walls.
Also, download the app called "wifi analyzer" to see which channels are being used by other routers in your area. Take yours off of auto and select the channel with the least traffic, especially if you are in an apartment with a lot of signals. The router I have has the 5 ghz band that will also get you out of all the noise as most people are on the 2.4 ghz band.
Also, download the app called "wifi analyzer" to see which channels are being used by other routers in your area. Take yours off of auto and select the channel with the least traffic, especially if you are in an apartment with a lot of signals. The router I have has the 5 ghz band that will also get you out of all the noise as most people are on the 2.4 ghz band.
This post was edited on 5/3/16 at 6:52 pm
Posted on 5/3/16 at 6:51 pm to AaronDeTiger
Yea it's a all in one combo. I have it sitting on top my rack in a closet under the stairs dedicated to my equipment. It's not the best location but since my luxul router doesn't use its own antenna I'll be able to put a unifi out in the open more.
I know I won't get my 150 over wifi ever but just now I'm get 6-7 out of 150 and I'm 20' from the thing with the closet door open and nothing but air between us
Is that the app that's just for droids? I'd rather use 5 because we all have iPhone iPads and macs that have 5hz but the range is worse on that and it already sucks on 2.4. I'll get it tho
I know I won't get my 150 over wifi ever but just now I'm get 6-7 out of 150 and I'm 20' from the thing with the closet door open and nothing but air between us
Is that the app that's just for droids? I'd rather use 5 because we all have iPhone iPads and macs that have 5hz but the range is worse on that and it already sucks on 2.4. I'll get it tho
This post was edited on 5/3/16 at 6:53 pm
Posted on 5/3/16 at 6:54 pm to NOLAGT
I edited my post to add that it shouldn't be by other electronics. I would try moving it away from all that stuff and see what happens. Buy a long ethernet cord and temporarily move it.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 7:00 pm to AaronDeTiger
Would it still effect it if the "antenna" part is out of that closet but the router is in it? The router I'm switching too is mounted in that rack. I have cat cable run all over so I'm going to cieling mount unifi APs where ever I need them to deploy the wifi signal out of that closet.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 9:35 pm to NOLAGT
To make matters worse...it seems at some point cox upped the DL speed I'm supposed to get. I should be getting 200 down.
Plugged direct into cox box on cox site doing cox test 3 times 120, 60, 90. On wifi at the moment standing right next to it...about 5-10.
Plugged direct into cox box on cox site doing cox test 3 times 120, 60, 90. On wifi at the moment standing right next to it...about 5-10.
This post was edited on 5/3/16 at 9:43 pm
Posted on 5/3/16 at 11:31 pm to NOLAGT
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Plugged direct into cox box on cox site doing cox test 3 times 120, 60, 90.
Back to back to back? That is extremely erratic. You are hardwired direct to modem, and no other devices are online?
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:00 am to NOLAGT
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I should be getting 200 down.
You're probably not going to get 200 on an 8x4 modem (8 downstream channels and 4 upstream channels), even on a dedicated modem. If 200+ mbps speed packages are available in your area, it means that cox is using 12 or more downstream channels to deliver broadband. I had to buy an SB6183 when I upgraded to Cox premiere (200mbps). My 6141 couldn't provide full saturation unless it was 3 in the morning. We used to have a lot of U-verse subscribers around here a few years ago, but I'm noticing fewer of those "2WIRE" SSIDs now. I think people are getting Cox internet again because U-Verse deployment is limited in our subdivision (24mbps max).
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On wifi at the moment standing right next to it...about 5-10.
WiFi is usually the poorest-performing feature of a gateway.
It would surprise me if your erratic speedtest results did not level out after an equipment change. At the very least, grab a new modem (easily returnable) to rule it out.
This post was edited on 5/4/16 at 12:04 am
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