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re: I'm sick of the cable company. Pros and cons of going exclusivley...

Posted on 5/26/15 at 4:44 pm to
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
12746 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 4:44 pm to
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Yes, but it's important to note these limitations:

-Audio streams in stereo
-Picture quality not quite as good as cable/dish
-Still at the mercy of whatever internet package you have.
-Can only stream on one device at a time
-Can't pause or rewind
-No Fox or abc sports channels


this really is true. i stream watch espn on my roku all the time and it is more then satisfactory. however i was at my friends house watching a game through his directv service, and the difference is quite noticeable.
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17712 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 4:53 pm to
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It seems like if ESPN were smart, they would start allowing people to subscribe to their shite without a cable subscription. Am I missing something? Are they under contract?


ESPN would make a killing if they offered a subscription service to WatchESPN or something like that. They have to be under contract.
Posted by LSU5803
Lafayette, La
Member since Jul 2004
1124 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 5:23 pm to
quote:

But I have my Windows Media Center on my computer integrated with KODI and so can record to the computer and then watch it on my tv.




how did you do this?
This post was edited on 5/26/15 at 5:25 pm
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37263 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 5:51 pm to
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cons: no sports

...I don't need to keep going. No sports is a deal breaker.


I thought the same thing before I switched and I cut the chord reluctantly at first, however...

I found out how much sports I DID watch and I shifted accordingly. Sports became more of an event, so it was more social and going out to watch something, rather than vegging on a couch. I found ways to watch what I wanted at home, and I watch less overall, and watching less TV overall is probably a good thing.

I don't miss them at all and I'm still as big a fan as ever.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38680 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 8:34 pm to
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how did you do this?




Install the WMCServer on your computer and the WMCpvr Client in KODI (comes already loaded on v 13 and up. You just have to enable it).

You'll have to have cable or OA Tuner connected to your computer and Windows Media Center working.....able to watch tv and record on your computer with WMC.
Instructions
This post was edited on 5/26/15 at 8:37 pm
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
77959 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 8:36 pm to
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cons: no sports

...I don't need to keep going. No sports is a deal breaker.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
77959 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 8:37 pm to
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ESPN would make a killing if they offered a subscription service to WatchESPN or something like that. They have to be under contract.



I don't know. They could charge what? $15-$20/month tops ? They probably get $50/month now for every cable subscriber.
Posted by ellunchboxo
Gtown
Member since Feb 2009
18792 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 8:43 pm to
According to a WSJ article last year, they got $6.04 for every subscriber. If they charged $10 a month for online service I'd do it.

ESPN $10
Netflix $8
Hulu $9
HBO $15

And that's all I'd need.

But you can get all that with Direct TV for close to the same price.
Posted by 8thyearsenior
Centennial, CO
Member since Mar 2006
4280 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 8:46 pm to
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Sports became more of an event, so it was more social and going out to watch something, rather than vegging on a couch. I found ways to watch what I wanted at home, and I watch less overall, and watching less TV overall is probably a good thing.


this for me also. I might go a week or two now and not turn the tv on at all. It's really quite liberating. I get way more stuff done around the house now and I go do more stuff because I don't find myself stuck on the couch watching tv.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24140 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 10:25 pm to
But only about 30% of cable subscribers watch ESPN even though they get paid that $6.04 for every cable subscriber. The economics of televisions and content producers/providers are strange.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18644 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 10:38 pm to
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this really is true. i stream watch espn on my roku all the time and it is more then satisfactory. however i was at my friends house watching a game through his directv service, and the difference is quite noticeable.



what about through the slingTV app?

when I watch ESPN through SlingTV on my 51" plasma i cannot tell the difference between that and cable. Looks great.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24140 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:10 am to
How much does cutting the cord actually save?

You still have to get internet via a provider and Sling + sports package is $25/month. Add in netflix at $7 and Hulu $10 (?) and you are up in the ~$40s before you add in internet. Seems like you are in the $60-70 range at a minimum.

What am I missing here?
Posted by 8thyearsenior
Centennial, CO
Member since Mar 2006
4280 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 10:42 am to
I was paying $137 a month for Directv plus $70 for internet. Internet is what it is so I'm not saving or spending more there but I am saving over $100 on TV watching. I have Netflix and Amazon Prime(which I already had both of), I added Hulu for like $7, and I use my sisters logins for HBO and ESPN(its a service that she is paying for already and not using so we could debate about this being theft). So even if I paid for HBO and Sling I would still be coming out way ahead. I bought 3 fire tv boxes and an antenna for about $350 total, which have already paid for themselves.
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
9356 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 10:44 am to
Almost an entire cable/satellite bill for me. $8-9 per month for Netflix. I already had internet and amazon prime before I cut the cord, so I don't factor that into monthly cost to determine how much I'm saving by not having cable/satellite TV.

I have an HTPC, so I get local sports and and programming via antenna and for WatchESPN I borrow someone's password for the occasional games I want to watch. All of my SO's shows are on CBS so she catches them the next day or so on CBS.com.

ETA: Initial investments included about $750 for an HTPC build and HD antenna. I've had this setup for 2.5 years, so it's more than paid for itself. Rough math says that in the last 2.5 years I've saved about $2K and have enjoyed my setup more than having satellite TV.
This post was edited on 5/27/15 at 10:49 am
Posted by LSU 318 LSU
El Cerrito Place
Member since Jan 2011
4278 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 10:56 am to
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But you can get all that with Direct TV for close to the same price.
False. You can get that for the first 6 months, then DirecTv plugs you in the arse after that.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38680 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 11:31 am to
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How much does cutting the cord actually save?



I'm saving $110 per month.
Posted by ellunchboxo
Gtown
Member since Feb 2009
18792 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 11:36 am to


$45 after 12 months. Now granted that's probably no DVR or anything and only one box, but still.
Posted by 8thyearsenior
Centennial, CO
Member since Mar 2006
4280 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 2:10 pm to
After the 3 months HBO is $30 a month. Also add in the costs of a box(they don't give you those for free), HD, DVR(if you want it) and the taxes and fees I would bet you are at $60 at least for just one tv and no HBO, and you will still sit there and flip channels because nothing is on.

When I cancelled Directv offered me the same deal you show for $28 a month for 6 months. frick em, I don't miss it at all and don't feel like I am missing out on anything. I am a pretty active person who didn't watch a lot of tv to begin with, but if your main activity everyday is setting up shop in front of the tv from when you get home until you go to bed its probably worth it to keep cable.
Posted by DrRichardHead
Member since Jun 2013
169 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 2:25 pm to
Have you added a live HD TV app on your Kodi? I've just got the Fire TV so I'm new to it and looking to add programs for HD TV channels.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18644 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

How much does cutting the cord actually save?

You still have to get internet via a provider and Sling + sports package is $25/month. Add in netflix at $7 and Hulu $10 (?) and you are up in the ~$40s before you add in internet. Seems like you are in the $60-70 range at a minimum.

What am I missing here?


I don't understand why people keep mentioning "adding in" internet. You're on a message board right now, you already have internet regardless of your TV viewing habits, don't you?

Besides that, tons of people who have cable already have Netflix. "Cutting the cord" for most people is not really about getting rid of Cox/Comcast/Charter/etc. and replacing it with Netflix. It's getting rid of these cable providers and figuring out how to get those last few things (sports etc.) without it because they already have Netflix anyway.
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