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re: Why are european clubs so quick to fire managers?

Posted on 5/26/15 at 5:53 pm to
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 5:53 pm to
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What have Montpellier and Udinese ever won?

Montpellier won Ligue 1 in 2011-12...
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 6:12 pm to
Good for them, honestly.

But then came Paris, who will now win it for the next decade...
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 7:36 pm to
Posted by nvasil1
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 8:16 pm to
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But then came Paris, who will now win it for the next decade...

As nice as that would be, it's tough. Monaco looks like they could be becoming trouble again.

I think Lyon is the only one in the big leagues to string 7 together.

Inter had 5, but they were helped by Calciopoli.

I think Celtic and Rangers might've each had 9 in a row...but, Scotland.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 8:46 pm to
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I think Celtic and Rangers might've each had 9 in a row...but, Scotland.


Haven't you heard? The soccer board says Scotland is the better league.
Posted by nvasil1
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 8:50 pm to
Is this the part of the thread where we bring up Glasgow being a bigger market than Manchester and Liverpool?
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 9:52 pm to
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Is this the part of the thread where we bring up Glasgow being a bigger market than Manchester and Liverpool?


Is that supposed to be relevant? Scotland isn't a footballing nation on part with the top 5 or 6 in Europe.

Istanbul is almost twice as big as London.
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 10:19 pm to
I don't quite understand comparing European markets to American ones where we acknowledge the European cities place within its country while not doing the same for the U.S.. American metropolitan areas are generally bigger than European ones, and though a city like St. Louis is small in an American context, it would be massive in a European context.

I don't think it's a fruitful comparison, though it does highlight why the franchise model works in the U.S. and wouldn't work in Europe, as in order to get a franchise in the first place you must be a large city to begin with (obviously with some exceptions).

My biggest problem with the franchise model in the U.S. is that owners have somehow convinced taxpayers to foot the bill for massive stadium projects. That is particularly deplorable.
This post was edited on 5/26/15 at 10:20 pm
Posted by nvasil1
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 10:43 pm to
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Is that supposed to be relevant? Scotland isn't a footballing nation on part with the top 5 or 6 in Europe.

Istanbul is almost twice as big as London

You said big markets are where the big money is...

But ok, top leagues...well then Aston Villa should be the EPL's next dark overlords. Biggest market in the UK behind London, 5th most successful club in England and they are up for sale. Party in the West Midlands?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 11:55 pm to
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If I'd rather play for the Saints than any other team and they will have me, there's absolutely no reason we should be prevented from making a deal.


You could go the La'el Collins route.

Just effectively convey to every other team that you will not sign if you are drafted and that they would be throwing away a pick by taking you.

You'll get a lot less money at the beginning, but you'd also be a year closer to your second contract, which is where the real money is.

Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 6:47 am to
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You said big markets are where the big money is...


Yes it is but there has to be a market for the product in a given region for that to matter. Look at LA. The second biggest market in the U.S. doesn't even have a team in what is by far its most popular sport.

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But ok, top leagues...well then Aston Villa should be the EPL's next dark overlords. Biggest market in the UK behind London, 5th most successful club in England and they are up for sale. Party in the West Midlands?


It's possible. They have a 1000x better chance than Burnley, Stoke, Hull, Swansea, Norwich etc...
This post was edited on 5/27/15 at 6:50 am
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