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re: FIFA and "Simulating"
Posted on 6/17/14 at 10:43 pm to crazy4lsu
Posted on 6/17/14 at 10:43 pm to crazy4lsu
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I dunno if we played the worst. Oddly enough, the fact that we remained on our 18 the whole game actually played into our hands, as Ghana and African teams in general are awful playing with 10 behind the ball.
Our back line played pretty well but our passing and midfield were atrocious.
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 10:46 pm to HollierThanThou
Falling to the ground easily in a strategic attempt to win a penalty or free kick is one thing, and something I am OK with. What I cannot stand is the rolling around, grimacing, grabbing ankles etc. The fake injuries have got to stop, but sadly players these days instinctively do it in hopes of winning calls.
I love soccer and have been watching it regularly for 20 years, but that shite is fricking gay.
I love soccer and have been watching it regularly for 20 years, but that shite is fricking gay.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 7:16 am to Broski
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If you can't see how implementing an entirely new facet of the game for something that is purely a judgement call which would, theoretically, just to limit the amount of flopping is not a slippery slope, then I'm sorry.
It's not really a judgment call when you are staring at multiple replays. If it's not too obvious the player would probably go unpunished.
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Do you have stats to back this up?
Um of course not but its pretty obvious. Just this year you didnt have 15 gifs of clippers players flopping. It definitely got better this year. That really cant be argued.
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 7:19 am
Posted on 6/18/14 at 7:17 am to Jcorye1
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Agreed. For someone like Dwayne Wade, 5k for a flop that might net his team an extra possession? Completely worth it. Dude makes around 277,777 per game.
No doubt. At least the NBA took step 1 and made it punishable. They just need to go the next step and make the punishment actually mean something to these guys.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 7:29 am to 417longhorn
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Falling to the ground easily in a strategic attempt to win a penalty or free kick is one thing, and something I am OK with. What I cannot stand is the rolling around, grimacing, grabbing ankles etc.
I agree with this sentiment. I said flopping/diving but this is likely most people's complaint.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 7:31 am to bbap
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At least the NBA took step 1 and made it punishable.
What does this mean "at least"? Soccer cards players for diving, but like the NBA, they miss a lot.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 7:40 am to Broski
Is the call ever made? I'm not a soccer diehard by any means but I do watch international matches, EPL and AC Milan (friends favorite team of any sport), and I have never seen a player carded for diving.
I do agree it's probably impossible for a referee to make that call live, so maybe reviews should be done during intermission or after the match. Obviously you couldn't penalize in the completed match, but sending someone into the next match with a yellow card would have some effect.
I do agree it's probably impossible for a referee to make that call live, so maybe reviews should be done during intermission or after the match. Obviously you couldn't penalize in the completed match, but sending someone into the next match with a yellow card would have some effect.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 7:44 am to HollierThanThou
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Is the call ever made?
I would say it's about 40/60 that it's called.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 7:51 am to HollierThanThou
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Is the call ever made? I'm not a soccer diehard by any means but I do watch international matches, EPL and AC Milan (friends favorite team of any sport), and I have never seen a player carded for diving
Ramires carded for diving
Ronaldo
But then you get stuff like this sometimes
Posted on 6/18/14 at 7:58 am to Broski
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I would say it's about 40/60 that it's called.
More like 95/5 not called. It's called so little i dont even really consider it a punishment.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 7:58 am to Broski
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I would say it's about 40/60 that it's called.
Wow. More like 4/96.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 8:03 am to RandySavage
Randy gonna Randy
Posted on 6/18/14 at 8:32 am to bbap
And you don't even understand why its not called more.;
Posted on 6/18/14 at 8:33 am to bbap
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More like 95/5 not called.
Hyperbole
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It's called so little i dont even really consider it a punishment.
How many fines do you think the NBA doled out for flopping this past season?
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 8:38 am
Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:49 am to Broski
I honestly think people dont hate flops as much as they hate guys who pretend to be in horrible pain, all while looking around for the ref, then getting up and carrying on. Its frustrating to watch when you know a guy is fine. People hate bitches. You can literally see on their faces they arent hurt.
However, I do kind of laugh when Deuce just sits on the ground in protest after not getting a call.
However, I do kind of laugh when Deuce just sits on the ground in protest after not getting a call.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:59 am to Hester Carries
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I honestly think people dont hate flops as much as they hate guys who pretend to be in horrible pain, all while looking around for the ref, then getting up and carrying on.
Right, I did not word the OP correctly. This is really what I meant.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:13 am to HollierThanThou
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Is the call ever made?
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AC Milan
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I have never seen a player carded for diving.
They card a LOT of players for diving in Serie A.
Maicon alone got about 5 or 6 yellows for Roma this season for diving (and by diving I mean specifically simulating non-existing contact).
I'm sure AC Milan had some yellows for diving this season but there is also a pretty strong argument to be made that a player for Livorno is more likely to be carded than a player for Roma and both much more likely to be carded than a player for AC Milan.
And that's another problem with any of these rules being suggested that put more crucial decisions in the hands of match officials (or governing committees in the case of suspensions by replay).
In fact, one of the most infamous bad calls ever made in a World Cup was Totti getting sent off with a second yellow for "diving" in 2002 when replay shows he was clearly tripped.
Also, Serie A suspends players for "clearly red card worthy" offenses such as punches, elbows, intentional kicks that were not seen during a match by video replay. Sounds great until it often makes the controversy 100 times worse when fans see the uneven way these punishments are meted out. I guess somewhat similar to the "targeting" rule in college football.
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 10:16 am
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:17 am to Broski
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More like 95/5 not called.
Hyperbole
No that's pretty damn accurate
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:18 am to wm72
Exactly. I think bringing replay type stuff in is just opening a whole new can of worms. Let the games be played on the field. The ref misses stuff. Big fricking deal, it happens. It sucks when it doesn't go your way, but I bet it's gone your way a time or two as well.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:18 am to bbap
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No that's pretty damn accurate
It really isn't.
Do you think there were only 11 NBA players that flopped this past season?
Because that's how many were fined.
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 10:19 am
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