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Best players of the last 20 years
Posted on 7/18/14 at 6:08 pm
Posted on 7/18/14 at 6:08 pm
Keeper - Gianluigi Buffon
Defense- Roberto Carlos, Fabio Cannavaro, Javier Zanetti, Nemanja Vidic
Midfield- C. Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Messi, Zidane
Forwards- Thierry Henry, Ronaldo
Defense- Roberto Carlos, Fabio Cannavaro, Javier Zanetti, Nemanja Vidic
Midfield- C. Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Messi, Zidane
Forwards- Thierry Henry, Ronaldo
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 6:10 pm to benhamin5555
Walter Samuel
Posted on 7/18/14 at 6:15 pm to benhamin5555
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Keeper - Gianluigi Buffon
I'd probably go Schmeichel instead.
quote:
Midfield- C. Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Messi, Zidane
Pirlo or Scholes
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 6:19 pm
Posted on 7/18/14 at 6:17 pm to Freauxzen
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I'd probably go Schmeichel instead.
Schmeichel is the answer here. I have Kahn ahead of Buffon as well, but I'm biased because he was my second favorite player growing up behind Friedel.
ETA: I also believe Paul Scholes belongs in that midfield.
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 11:55 pm
Posted on 7/18/14 at 6:19 pm to benhamin5555
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Keeper - Gianluigi Buffon
I'd even argue that Neuer could make a case.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 6:21 pm to benhamin5555
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Nemanja Vidic
What? Ummm.. Maldini was better than Vidic when he was 15.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 6:25 pm to benhamin5555
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Midfield- C. Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Messi, Zidane
Only one of these four is a midfielder.
Should be
Xavi
Pirlo
Scholes
Zidane
You could throw in Nedved, Gerrard, Lampard, Makelele and a few others into that argument.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 6:34 pm to glassman
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What? Ummm.. Maldini was better than Vidic when he was 15.
I'm glad you said it. I'm also laughing at the Samuel suggestion.
Thuram, Nesta, Stam, Desailly, Hierro while players like Ferdinand, Terry, and Puyol should also be considered, among many others.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 6:35 pm to crazy4lsu
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I'm glad you said it. I'm also laughing at the Samuel suggestion.
OMG you are so cool. Go frick yourself.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 6:36 pm to thenry712
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You could throw in Nedved, Gerrard, Lampard, Makelele and a few others into that argument.
Quite a few others. Vieira, Keane, Schweinsteiger, and many more I can't think of. It's hard to come up with a list of just 11.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 6:38 pm to SabiDojo
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OMG you are so cool. Go frick yourself.
You really think Samuel is one of the two best CB's of the past 20 years? You don't think that's a ridiculous suggestion? I don't even think Samuel is Argentina's best CB of the past 20ish years. Ruggeri has a much better reputation as well as resume.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 7:07 pm to crazy4lsu
Hell, you could argue Ayala was better, too.
Goalkeepers: Buffon, Schmeichel, Casillas (he deserves consideration despite the past couple of years).
Left back: Roberto Carlos, Maldini for most of his career, Lizarazu.
Right back: Cafu, Lahm, maybe Alves
Central defenders: Cannavaro, Nesta, Baresi (not sure if he really fits in the time frame), Costacurta
So many Italians were great. Others include Lilian Thuram, Jaap Stam, and probably Ramos in a few years. I hesitate to include Puyol, Carvalho, or Terry.
Defensive midfield: Makalele, Roy Keane (if you want an enforcer for all your skilled guys), Xabi Alonso, probably missing some others.
Central Midfield: Has to include Zidane. Lots of great players, but he is the best. Riquelme, Rui Costa, Pirlo, Ballack, Steven Gerrard, Iniesta, Xavi and the forever underrated Mehmet Scholl
Wingers: Figo, Nedved, Giggs, Robben, Cristiano Ronaldo. Most loaded position by far.
Forwards: Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo again, Fat Ronaldo, and Batistuta. Second tier would be Totti, van Nistlerooy, Vieri, Kluivert, Bergkamp, Crespo for his fantastic club career, I suppose
ETA: My two biggest oversights have to be Vieira for DM and Ronaldinho in attacking midfield, assuming he passed the drug test.
Goalkeepers: Buffon, Schmeichel, Casillas (he deserves consideration despite the past couple of years).
Left back: Roberto Carlos, Maldini for most of his career, Lizarazu.
Right back: Cafu, Lahm, maybe Alves
Central defenders: Cannavaro, Nesta, Baresi (not sure if he really fits in the time frame), Costacurta
So many Italians were great. Others include Lilian Thuram, Jaap Stam, and probably Ramos in a few years. I hesitate to include Puyol, Carvalho, or Terry. Defensive midfield: Makalele, Roy Keane (if you want an enforcer for all your skilled guys), Xabi Alonso, probably missing some others.
Central Midfield: Has to include Zidane. Lots of great players, but he is the best. Riquelme, Rui Costa, Pirlo, Ballack, Steven Gerrard, Iniesta, Xavi and the forever underrated Mehmet Scholl
Wingers: Figo, Nedved, Giggs, Robben, Cristiano Ronaldo. Most loaded position by far.
Forwards: Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo again, Fat Ronaldo, and Batistuta. Second tier would be Totti, van Nistlerooy, Vieri, Kluivert, Bergkamp, Crespo for his fantastic club career, I suppose
ETA: My two biggest oversights have to be Vieira for DM and Ronaldinho in attacking midfield, assuming he passed the drug test.
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 7/18/14 at 7:24 pm to Keys Open Doors
Hernan Crespo..haven't heard that name in a while
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 7:25 pm
Posted on 7/18/14 at 7:42 pm to benhamin5555
My pretty uneducated guesses:
Sort of close to realistic 4-3-3:
Schmiechel
Lahm-Nesta-Cannavaro-Roberto Carlos
Xavi-Zidane-Schweinsteiger
Messi-Ronaldo-Ronaldo
I feel pretty decent about most of my guesses. Probably missing someone for RB. Who would be a better CDM than Bastian? Peak Xabi? Someone I don't know?
Let's pretend the Messi and Ronaldo squared front line works.
Sort of close to realistic 4-3-3:
Schmiechel
Lahm-Nesta-Cannavaro-Roberto Carlos
Xavi-Zidane-Schweinsteiger
Messi-Ronaldo-Ronaldo
I feel pretty decent about most of my guesses. Probably missing someone for RB. Who would be a better CDM than Bastian? Peak Xabi? Someone I don't know?
Let's pretend the Messi and Ronaldo squared front line works.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 7:45 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
Although he faded due to Injuries, Kaka was up there during the Milan (first go round) years...
Posted on 7/18/14 at 7:58 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
Cafu for right back, I'd take Maldini over Roberto Carlos at LB. Lots better players than Schweinsteiger for CDM. Hell, you could use Pirlo there if you wanted. If you want more of a ball winner, you could use Makalele or Vieira.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 8:16 pm to benhamin5555
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Defense- Roberto Carlos, Fabio Cannavaro, Javier Zanetti, Nemanja Vidic
Was Zanetti really a defender? I thought he played mostly in the midfield.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 8:35 pm to cwil177
He could play in midfield really well but he was a fantastic RB. Almost certainly one of the best. It was tragic that Maradona left Zanetti (and Cambiasso) for the 2010 WC, and played Jonas at RB throughout the whole tournament.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 8:36 pm to Keys Open Doors
I will take Vieira then. I have never seen Pirlo take on much defensive responsibility since I got into soccer, so I can't put him there.
damn, maldini must have been a freak because I thought Roberto Carlos was supposed to be the best LB.
damn, maldini must have been a freak because I thought Roberto Carlos was supposed to be the best LB.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 8:45 pm to Freauxzen
Pirlo is an artist....scholes is blue collar
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